Get the Boxer MGS in the Mobile Sniper Event!

[Jεcka]

Not sure what’s worse:

• the fact that it’s not a TT vehicle serving as RadKampf’s successors (because there aren’t many that fulfill this role)
• RHN camo on a KMW vehicle

Guess Gaijin’s gotta milk the Boxer family til the end. Pass from me cause I’ve been wanting it to be TT (it’s literally Germany’s only option when it comes to modern wheeled MGS, and Gaijin just had to make it an event vehicle, I’ve no words to describe just how much this keks Germany over in the long term, but then again, all Gaijin cares about is short term profit so :Shrug:).

[jspene-psn]

I don’t care what other people say. This vehicle looks like a ton of fun! I have the CT-CV 105HP from last year, and this seems like a slightly different version for the German TT.

[LamawDoniczce]

YesThis vehicle is similar to the one from Sweden, cv105, I made it when there was an event on it, I played it 4 times and I regret it, and each of my friends regretted this vehicle, I won’t make this mistake again

[rpsgc]

CT-CV 105HP is 10.0, what makes you think this would be lower? Especially with DM63.

Hopefully it won’t be more than 10.3

[Джахед]

Thanks for another clone

[jspene-psn]

No loading screen? That art looks sick

[Flak_Dancer]

@Stona_WT

the Mobile Sniper event!

@Stona_WT

Sniper Chevron

@Stona_WT

“Born to be a sniper”

@Stona_WT

“Modern Sniper Rifle

[Константинович7]

Yes so much fun isn’t it? It’s like we can’t pay around 30GJN for the same vehicle just in another tech tree, haha, I’m excited for wasting my time on this copy pasted vehicle.

[Necronomica]

Probably a bit higher since it gets the DM63 round and an autoloader.
Compare it to the Radkampfwagen 90 or the CV90105.

Edit:
or even better, compare it to the CT-CV 105HP.

[SPANISH_AVENGER]

And if it had been an old vehicle, you would have comments saying:

“Boooooring. Just another stupid old vehicle.”

Almost as if preferences for older or more modern vehicles were a subjective matter.

[Thomas_Belgium]

We don’t have the Cockerill 3105 turret in game.

For the 105mm Cockerill turrets only the Cockerill CT-CV 105mm and the Cockerill XC-8 are in-game.

Cockerill websites for each turret:

The Cockerill CT-CV (TM) Weapon System (advanced 105mm) successfully demonstrated its gun launched missile capability - John Cockerill
Eurosatory: CMI Defence and BAE Systems Hägglunds present the CV90105 - John Cockerill
Cockerill® modular turret 3105 : Defense - John Cockerill

The Cockerill Turret series might look like the same turret at first glance, but each version is an improvement in design philosophy.

The ‘first’ turret CT-CV brought an autoloader for large calibre 105mm guns into the series, with the integration of very new munitions such as Belgian MECAR M1060CV ammunition, smart ammunition and Belgian-Ukranian gun fired missiles. Also the great elevation angles were a new addition: -10° to +42°.

Specifications of the CT-CV series + picture:

Main Components

• Two man turret
• Cockerill 105 mm CV gun
• Electro-mechanical power control system
• Panoramic sight
• Fully stabilised day/night gunner sight
• Laser range finder
• Ballistic computer for firing on the move

Characteristics

• Calibre: 105 mm NATO
• Barrel length: 5,586 mm
• Weight: 1,750 kg
• Maximum firing rate: 6 to 8 rounds/minute
• Uniquely high elevation range: -10° to +42°
• Effective indirect-fire engagement capability

Here is the turret on the Belgian army Piranha III.
https://youtu.be/KaDZw1DuMGk

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The XC-8 is an upgrade of the CT-CV variant, but with several design changes. The turret was made lighter, but level 5 STANAG 4569 armour was added all-around. The optical systems were majorly updated, with the possible integration of soft APS systems, far more smoke grenade options and ammunition and more integrated environmental measurement systems to help with the ballistics computer in the turret.

Specifications of the XC-8 series + picture:

Main Components

• Two man turret
• Cockerill 105 mm High Pressure gun
• Electro-mechanical power control system
• 2 Panoramic sights
• Fully stabilised day/night gunner sight for both gunner and commander
• Laser range finder/Laser warning system
• Ballistic computer for firing on the move with additional environmental measurement system
• computerized fire control system

Characteristics

• Calibre: 105 mm NATO
• Barrel length: 5,586 mm
• Weight: 1,750 kg
• Maximum firing rate: 8 rounds/minute
• elevation range: -10° to +42°

Here is the Cockerill XC-8 turret and the CV90 tracked chassis..

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And now the newest version of this family of turrets is the 3000 series. This is actually a development from the XC-8 version, but with many internal and external changes, such as a new crew compartiment, bustle mount, optics, breach mount, LWD, UAV integration since 2016, new environmental measurement, etc.

Specifications of the 3105 series + picture:

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There are also plenty of Belgian ammunition types available for the Cockerill 3105:

Some of the Belgian ammunitions made by MECAR which can be used by the 3105

Belgian ammunition, made by MECAR and others.

Designation	Gun	Caliber	Type	Velocity	Weight	Penetration	Notes
M393A2	NATO 105 mm	105 mm	HESH	732 m/s	11,2 kg	127 mm	In-game
M1060(A1)	NATO 105 mm	105 mm	APFSDS	1510 m/s	5,8 kg	400 mm at 60° at 2000 m	Equivalent to the M833 round (395 mm in game)
M1060A2	NATO 105 mm	105 mm	APFSDS	1460 m/s	6,2 kg	440 mm at 60° at 2000 m
M1060A3	NATO 105 mm	105 mm	APFSDS	1560 m/s	6,2 kg	>500 mm at 60° at 2000 m
M1060CV	Cockerill 105HP	105 mm	APFSDS	1620 m/s	6,2 kg	560 mm at 60° at 2000 m	Superior to M900 (522 mm in game), matching NATO 120 mm
M1061	NATO 105 mm	105 mm	HEAT	1173 m/s	10,5 kg	400 mm	Modernized M456A2
Falarick 105	Cockerill 105HP	105 mm	GLATGM	370 m/s	24 kg	550 mm behind ERA	In-game

Cockerill Weapon systems - Which ones, what weapons and what ammunitions

John Cockerill Defence - If it’s armoured it can have their turrets! [image] The Belgian company John Cockerill Defence is famous for its long-standing history in weapons manufactoring. This discussion is an attempt at clarifying and gathering all possible variants that include Cockerill turrets which could find, or already have found their way into War Thunder. Small Calibre 20 - 30 mm CPWS20 - 20 mm - 25 mm - ATK M242, Nexter, Oerlikon KBA - 30 mm - ATK M230 LF

Spoiler

[image] The CPWS …

[Zyranovos]

Yep, I’ll be grinding this…

[John_Sneeeeeeeew]

[Zyranovos]

Does it still get Falarick though?

(Not to mention it is, notably, much smaller)

[foxmeup]

and meanwhile gaijin refuses the ofl 105f2 for the vextra (430 for the 63 and 489 for the f2) and prefer to give it a shell it never fired.

[Flak_Dancer]

@SPANISH_AVENGER

And if it had been an old vehicle, you would have comments saying:

“Boooooring. Just another stupid old vehicle.”

No padre no.
Congratulations for another 20 days of no life event for probalby the last thing germany need in his TT. Menwhile the 80% of german TT can stay rotten near 30% win ratio for another months.

[SPANISH_AVENGER]

@Flak_Dancer

Menwhile the 80% of german TT can stay rotten near 30% win ratio for another months.

I don’t understand your point.

Are you suggesting that 80% of the German TT is “rotten near 30% win ratio” because of its vehicles…?

[Smin1080p_WT]

@x_Shini_

Rheinmetal camo for a kmw vehicle yeahhhh sure

It’s a semi-historical skin as we often do for event and BP vehicles rewards.

[Flak_Dancer]

@SPANISH_AVENGER

I don’t understand your point.

Are you suggesting that 80% of the German TT is “rotten near 30% win ratio” because of its vehicles…?

Of course, Gaijin is desperate pushig the massive german player base to 70 bucks premiun zone cuz obvious reasons. thats why Germany between 3.3 to 8.3 is practically abandoned.

[SPANISH_AVENGER]

@Flak_Dancer

thats why Germany between 3.3 to 8.3 is practically abandoned.

Or maybe the higher, more modern tiers are just more populated because people… like them more?

This is true across all tech trees, not just Germany; Top Tier is simply one of the most successful BR ranges because a lot of people like modern machinery.

Gaijin just releasing modern vehicles does not force anyone to go after them. Whoever likes 3.3-8.3, will play those BRs regardless of the higher tier additions.