I may be entirely wrong here but im always seeing people complaining about premium vehicles leaving game after their first death. Unfortunately i am one of them people simply because grinding germany with the pzbl 123 doesnt give you many options, its not like america or russia where you have multiple vehicles at the same BR. Pzbl 123 is 10.7 and has no other vehicles so you play it, run out of back-ups then you have to leave. You can buy the 2A4 CAN but that takes your pzbl 123 upto 11.7. With the 2A4 CAN u can grind the 2 PL but until then ur still a 1 vehicle man.
Both vehicles are a play, die, leave vehicle unless germany gets another 10.7 premium.
And this should be every nation. It backs the idea of selling premium vehicles in packs like a tank and IFV or something.
this exactly. if a guy in a premium tank dies without backups or dies the second time what bad would come of just giving them an additional copy pasta spaa with the vehicle they bought? at least lets them be useful defending their allies that are still fighting from cas. Lowering the cas problem and keeping people that would otherwise have left the match with sp left in the game. Then increase the rewards for killing planes (why the fuck should those not be similar to killing a tank in the first place) making anti cas actually worthwile for grinding.
Could even be a copy paste and (for 10.3) slightly worse wiesel spaa (ozelot) cuz even tho this might not be adequate to fight cas with stand off weapons it can be much more useful on the ground, sneaking to positions where it cant get killed by tanks but scout for the team. And you still wouldnt have a full lineup so you still need to grind for that.
Or a copy paste ifv. Lets say a merged leo2a4 pzbtl with the TAM 2IP. only available in pack. Both usable at 10.3. 75 €. or whatever ridicolous price the snail puts on it for people that dont want to wait for sales. Or even a copy paste TAM 2c. No one would complain. And people that would want to grind faster with premium rp and sl gains could still do that. With basically the same tanks that are in the tech tree. without utterly turning all those 10.3 matches to shitfests of “team with less premium players autowins”
Could even come with a slight price increase to appease the hungry snail, whatever
Honestly if you get that mentality out of your head youd be suprised, ive been trying to change the way i play this game. If i die to some bullshit or die in a map i dont like off the bat instead of leaving i just stop for a sec, look at the map and take another tank out where i think it will be appropriate. I find most times now i end up having a decent match, nothing spectacular like the get 10 kills in the initial flank we all want but a few kills.
My problem is watching too much WT on youtube, so i have it in my head 10 kills on first spawn is normal, and while i like to think im an above average player who can do this easily, leaving when it doesnt work or i get out player by a better player wasnt the best mentality.
i highly advice rethinking how you play the game, even maps you dont like, try them, go somewhere new, even maps you DO like, go somewhere new. I have something like 8k hours on steam and 3k on the launcher and i find i have no idea how to play alot of areas of maps because i play the same areas over and over again. Sure they tend to be the areas i can control the map from or control 2 caps, but playing the meta every single time has left e clueless how to play C side on abandoned factory for example.
i think everyone gets annoyed at times and just leaves pal, thats not much better.
Hey did you ever play BF3 with someone called Kapishka back in like 2012 or 2013 i cant remember exactly the year? religiously play btw, every day almost.
absolutely, i mean everyone would love that. it’s just that with that youd have a pretty hefty price increase but you also almost have a complete (at least ground) lineup, which i think there’s statements of gaijin that they dont want to make people be able to just buy complete lineups. I mean, obviously for the gameplay all of them just having 1 or 2 spawns max (for 20 times) is so much worse so i guess for the snail this is just a money milking thing to consider.
But it would definitely be good for all the people (and i believe this is also a big part of the problem) that are mainly interested in the modern era of war thunder. If i had to grind a new tech tree and just had one 10.0 premium mbt id just spawn that twice and then just bring a light tank that can scout no matter the br it has, be a rat and scout everything from behind cover. 10.0 premium buyers dont or cant do that because they dont put these vehicles in their lineup or dont even bother buying them with sl.
I think gaijin needs to just say ok, it’s reasonable and a good idea. We will add 2 and make the packs like £80 or whatever. 10-20 extra. But for that we want proper vehicles, not cheap plastic crap just to make us happy.
whats wrong with the leo2a4? its a very strong tank for the br? why would you want something blatantly op just because you can buy it for real money. Then you cant complain if the whole game would turn to pay to win. youll get the exact same, similar or at best a vehicle that is unique in what it can do or its playstyle and that’s it. fairness between premium grinders and people that take the long and hard route. You still grind quicker and skip the learning process and all the ww2 stuff if you happen to not like that. But then please dont complain or wonder why and how some dude with a crap or offmeta vehicle from the tech tree killed you just because he put 5 times more effort into getting where he is now (10.3) and he played the imo much more skillbased ww2 and cold war brs