Germany Has Been Left Behind – Leopard Armor, Missing 2A8 and the Decline of German Players

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This is the case for most of the APS tanks currently at top tier.

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Well they could give it newer ammos but yea

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Nothing 2A7V/HU couldn’t use…

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For me it’s worse than the regular T-90M because it doesn’t have extra armour in the side

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Dm73 depending on what gaijin wants could be a nice improvement but I doubt and there’s dm83 what is 1000x better but won’t come since it makes Relikt irrelevant but like ares said it can be used by any l55a1 lmao

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Yea if the added DM-73 in the Leopards it would go up in the br

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It should but dev didnt add it

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Consider that usually gaijin with things that set a new top tier always divides the new units by patches, like the new SAM systems were or even with Jets so it could perfectly come with other major nation big caliber monsters

It never happened that all nations got the said “new” top tier units all in 1 patch

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DM73 adds like 10mm more penetration across the board and doesn’t have an anti-ERA tip, its a nothing burger. Only DM83 would change anything meaningful…

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Isn’t the DM83 still in development?

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Nope should be in production/limited use by the bundeswehr but again I don’t think we’ll ever get dm83

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Or in some cases, it takes them years to add appropriate counterparts for more nations for certain vehicles (cough 2A7V/122).

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That’s why i specified the “usually”

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Alot of nations shrimply don’t have counterparts that’s the thing lol

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With proper artificially balancing it could came, either way in top tier armour isn’t so important

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Still doesn’t excuse them from waiting around 2.5 years to add the SEPv3s and Leo 2RI, which are perfectly viable 2A7V counterparts.

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The leopard 2RI is a 2a4… That’s not a counterpart lmao and the sep v3 was overdue. Gajin was stupid they skipped all the German prototype/tech demos and went right for 2a7V when it logically shouldn’t of been added

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It has the uparmored hull so it’s close enough, closer to a 2A7 counterpart in game than anything Japan had before it.

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Still not a counterpart. Lmao it’s a 2a4 with gen 1 thermals. Japan shrimply doesn’t have a counterpart same with china until type 100

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Now that you mention it, i noticed the Leo2RI UFP literally eats almost every round together with DM53 on a good day, is it actually that good?
Iirc didn’t it have shaped charge AMAP instead of AMAP-B like 122s?

A question for you @Leo2A6EX-live