Well Germany at 4.7 is literally empty. The only vehicle available is the very rare and expensive Pakwagen.
So i just create this topic for add different vehicles and possible suggestion for Germany at 4.7 and lets start for the easiest just add a non-premiun variant of the Pakwagen just like Hellcat in USA tree.
This vehicle is very necessary due the brutal lack of movility in German TT.
Another possilbe suggestion is the Jagdpanzer IV late production variant. The ingame version is a pre-production model with weak armor. Basically is the same but with 80mm frontal armor and lack of muzzle brake.
Another suggestion for a future premiun or event vehicle is this captured Sherman “Firefly”. Should be a very good addition for 4.7 aswell.
Well, they can add the TT variant wihtout the MG unlike the Premiun version. But i think they can do just like Hellcats one TT and another Premiun. Germany really need good movility in rank 3.
Another possible adition: Jagdpanzer 38D basically a Hetzer armed with Panther gun just a better protected Jagdpanzer IV 70 (4.3) so can fit in 4.7.
According to some sources two prototypes completed.
maybe add the later STUGs with pig manlet and roof MG and Coax MG since the last stug variant is 4.0
you would have the “Stug III G (early)” and the “Stug III G (late)”
the early variant we have in game
the late variant with roof MG and a coaxial machine gun and improved armor thanks to new manlet.
but maybe this is more 4.3 material and just gangs around with the hetzer and jagdpanzer IV
I went through the suggestions passed to the developers as a first pass to see what exists with enough documentation to be considered and the only vehicle that might sit between 3.7 - 4.7 are the alternate self propelles flak 88 platforms, one of them being a slightly smaller halftrack with the 88 and the over being a panzer IV in a similar configuration to the Zerstorer.
Everything else is either random kitbashed guns onto captured vehicles all of which would likey be rank I and II vehicles with Battleratings between 1.0 and 2.7.
The other suggestion would all sit above 6.0 as modern vehicles.
The VK 36.01 with high velocity gun could sit at 4.7
Same with the VK 30.01(P) with 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56.
Which would give a heavy and a medium tank, a TD (the main production Jagdpanzer IV)
But tbh i dont really see much for the 4.7 Br, while others have such, germany lacks it, which is a downside in the MM.
Having something there would be nice, to improve MM and have something to slow progress for newbies.
No, captured vehicles should be removed unless they where modified like the KWIC 756.
I will also point out that if captured vehicles are to continue to be added then almost EVERY German vehicle should have copies go to the Russian, USA and UK trees as they captured the entire German army and air force… Premium Russian Maus when?
If captured vehicles are going to keep being added, why shouldn’t the Russians get the captured Maus premium for its anniversary, like how all the allied planes and tanks are put on sale as captured premiums for Germany?
And just so we are clear I am arguing AGAINST adding things like that and using an extreme example to make my point.
Luckly there no Captured Vehicles outside of the German tree:
Kungstiger
T-V
Panther Dauphine
Hanomag
Heavy Tank Nr.6 (not Captured, but still an German Vehicle )
Tigris
T-III
US Bf 109 F-4
RU Fw 190 D-9
And a few more…
What part of I am against capture vehicles are you missing? that means ALL captured ones that where not modified, in all nations, not just Germany.
The very small number of those you listed, that are still available and not rare event vehicles (or already rightly been removed) should also be removed, No-6 and Tigris where sold to Germanys WW2 allies and not remotely relevant to captured vehicles.
