heres the bug report for bismarcks barbettes
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/i1YDBULsV4ho
wow they killed naval im done basically said screw you make a suggestion even though its there fault for not modeling the ship properly
naval deserves to just die off at this point
"Not a bug.
If you have a suggestion for improving game mechanics regarding barbette fires, you can do that here: Suggestions - War Thunder — official forum"
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Bismarck is nerfed by her barbettes there is a bulkhead that protects the magazine from fire damage and should not allow it to be damaged via fire in the barbette as it seals the magazine room and it cant be damaged via external sources due to it being protected by the turtle back. her fire damage issue prevents her from being able to compete with south Dakota or Iowa and some ships even lower br can exploit this to kill her its a unfair mechanic that makes no sense as no one else has this problem
and the less shell mechanic allowing you to survive shell room detonations only nerfed her and made everyone else more survivable as she is the only ship that cant benefit from this mechanic
also cordite is only vulnerable to the MOST EXTREME OF FLASHES
https://reviews.ipmsusa.org/sites/default/files/reviews/battleship-bismarck-anatomy-ship/bismarckdiagramb.jpg
its shown in this photo above unless you pen the turtle back you cant damage this wall enough to destroy it allowing fire to pass through so she should be able to withstand more fire than she does now her flash wall should save her from fires
also the ships schematics show this you can find it under the turtle back on the magazine deck
GER - YN 509 KMS Bismarck Booklet of General Plans (193X) : Blohm & Voss Kommanditgesellschaft auf Aktien, Hamburg, Germany : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
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I know Naval is dead. It fell prey to grinding bots and russian favoritism.
But can someone report the Lutjens destroyer from last patch? It just got one Rim starter and two slow firing single barrel guns. Where are its Rh 20mm autocannons? Cause a ship with absolutely no secondary is a bit^^ meh…expecially at this BR. Also: Does it even have the upgraded mod10 guns? Cause it doesn’t seem to have autoloading ones. It has the firepower of a reserve DD imho.
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2x 30-40rpm sounds pretty fast to me
it’s better configured than the Addams (ammo is deeper in the hull).
The damn thing can devour crew off other DDs and even some CLs if it can land hits.
Agreed, but not if you compare it to my fav Koln/Lubeck.
Edit: But these 2x 20mm RH should have been added.
to be fair america is also getting favoritism aswell as they havent had any artficial nerfs on the IOWA or SOUTH DAKOTA and there only claim to fame of having one is the 14inch gun having a 40 second reload while other nations still have worse boats at same br as these “bad” 14 inch gun boats
I just stopped playing that BR range. Bismarck still unspaded. Let Gajins Favs duke it out. All others were pushed out. Bis is still detonating when hit into turret or barbette. Unplayable, as it used to be at its release.
Its just strange, that they are that stubborn. I play quite a few WW2 MMOs, WT is the only one without balancing. How do they think it even works out @ live? One category of ships light up when you just touch them, the other ones last until crew runs out…which takes long time?! Its that broken that I just can’t click on that “play” button.
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Rh 202 was not with her start of life. It was at later part of her life with modernization that changed RIM-24 tartar to SM-1. So well, when sister ship added.
Who else is super excited for Z52 ? Gerät 58 and Mk303 as AA, can´t wait for it.
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Can someone explain to me why the M42 flak gun on R130 doesn’t fire at the same point as the 2cm cannons? It always fires off-center. That´s total crap !
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I’m also excited, it will be the destroyer that I’ll leave as AA support for my lineup, still waiting for Tirpitz and H39.
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I have to admit that I haven´t grinded the Z52. I´ve started it but I´ll do it with the next BP task.
I don´t want more big ships, I´d rather have more smaller ones. Königsberg, Blücher, Scheer and Lützow. Bremse, Brummer, Drache 1908, Flottentorpedoboot 1940, Flottentorpedoboot 1941, Geleitboot 1941, Flottenbegleiter and a lot of Beuteschiffe.
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I can understand, they’re small ships but with a good dose of fun, I’m almost finished researching the Z-52, I like using a 100% WWII lineup of ships and planes, with torpedoeboats and capitalships, I hope they can introduce Arado Ar 196B and A5 in the future.
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Z52 is alright. Lütjens is straight up superior for AA support due to rapid fire VTF available primaries and missiles.
Although the Z52 is both a smaller and more maneuverable target.
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Thanks for sharing your experience, I hope to unlock it soon. I’ve just played a few matches with the Z52 and it’s a beast at its level.
I’d almost argue Z51 is superior due to the cracked out Base fuse HE but germany in general is pretty solid overall.
German battleships tend to lack penetration but have the fastest firerate of any nation. Westfalen is an unkillable brick for surface action but this comes at the caveat of poor performing, low penetration AP, no speed nor AA.
It’s in that weird BR of blatantly overpowered in a downtier but borderline worthless up tiered. At least it can resist some 7.0 shells
does anyone have a side photo of one of scarnhorsts or gniesnaus barbettes that shows the width allowing the future imporvement of the guns from 283mm to 380mm ?
As far as I know; this never got past initial planning before realizing it wasn’t worth it so I’m not sure if any artist interpretation exists
made a poll