Well then keep living in your deluded fantasy world where everyone you agree with can never ever possibly do anything wrong ever.
Isn’t that argument kinda bad though? Italy sweden and japan have had to wait for quite a while to get decent CAS at top tier. Italy had basically the Tornado for a while then it got the AMX and the gripen. Sweden had the AJ37 with 2 AGM65A till they got the gripen A. And japan well, japan got something…
Doesn’t that kinda mean germany had viable CAS before they did? I mean im not saying that germany doesn’t deserve good CAS they definitely should get something (Mako pls for the love of the snail) but this post seems kinda biased no?
they can do wrong, hell i do wrong. Its just that you are so far of the road you are heading to a completly different destination and have been since the beginning of joining this thread
calling the tornados decent cas is far fetched and germany pretty much was cas wise in the same boat as italy. we didnt have a better cas option
I’m not exactly eager to follow the ideas of people like Furina after their repeated attempts of lying and gaslighting.
Yeah they definitely weren’t great but i mentioned it since it was their like first CAS with a pod iirc. Not great, germany also got their tornado at the same time.
Bro you’re really living in a total fantasy xD
Italy has pretty much always had better CAS than Germany past WW2 (their helicopters are as of now, also better). Sweden shared Germany’s struggles (2xAGM-65A/B, barely any difference) until the Gripen C, right now they’re better off on both the ground & air.
Then against, what does this what’aboutism have to do with Germany? Because X nation didn’t have Y or still doesn’t, Germany shouldn’t either? Didn’t stop US from getting the F-16C or Russia from the Su-25SM3.
Doesn’t that kinda mean germany had viable CAS before they did?
Tornado was viable for a whole (i.e since its addition until the later) patch before it was made redunant by the Pantsir.
Again, wasn’t really a full critique it was more pointing out sort of fact that this wasn’t exclusive to germany. Though with the EFT and possible swiss addition(maybe) we should see the cas problem change. Didn’t see japan mentioned lol
This shouldn’t even be brought up since pretty much every person on this forum is aware that unless you’re US or Russia, you’ll be left to grind the dust in terms of CAS (Germany), or tanks (Italy until this patch), or jets (Sweden), or all (China?).
Eh not entirely, russia is the only one that got their jets first more than the US iirc. Mig 23 and mig 29 are the most recent ones that come to mind. I guess maybe you could say the F4’s were exclusive since germany didn’t get theirs when they needed them. Oh and su22 and maybe some of the mig 21’s
US or Russia.
Yeah, everyone should get good CAS and equal SPAAs.
Should, but in reality Gajin will never let that happen.
Su-22M4 (Germany) is finally 10.3 in ground RB!!!
it has the 2 Kh-29Ts and nearly 260 CMs so finally we have a workable CAS aircraft at that BR
It doesn’t matter how good the leopards are, they will still get slammed by CAS. Good tanks are nothing without good support. I thought this was simple warfare tactics?
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No you’re the one refusing to learn. You somehow thing not pinging som1 is some sort of talking point in an argument.
on the topic of high tier CAS…