German Anti Air line br does not make sence jus because Gaijin is lazy + return of Flakpanzer 341

Have you considered burst capability as well as anti air performance, as well as the fact that Kuglblitz has insane post pen damage? Also the Flakpanzer 341 is OP in the hands of anyone that knows how to use it, it once penetrated my Jumbo from the front. Having it accessible to everyone would make it like a BMPT for 6.3-7.7

Well armor a kinda useless it makes Kugelblitz only slower lowering chance to survive.
Almost any plane since br 2.0 have 20mm which will kill you immidiately. You are in br 6.7 with Kugelblitz.
Basically every plane have atleast some .50 which will also kill you from top. So armor is not someting what we should talk about here in my opinion.

Pen is most important factor becasue nobody wants to have autocannons killing heavy tanks from 1km. This was issue back than with german 20 mm PzGr.40 before nerf.

About handling for Kugelblitz its horizontal 42 vertical 14 and total fire rate with both barrels 450 shots/min 100 rounds then reload

Meanwhile for R3 T20 FA-HS have proper stabilizer, horizontal 32 vertical 21, longer ammo belt and 2x higher fire rate even with single barrel. Again R3 T20 FA-HS is better in every single imaginable way for killing planes and its only 6.0. There are many vehicles like this in game these days, this is not only example.

Seems like almost any tank in good hands can do incredible well. I have seend youbers playing basic stuff like leopard 1, hellcat and they had 12-15 kills every game.

But i agree autocannons should not be able to pen heavy tank from front, where is the point of having armor then.

Kuglblitz is breat for killing planes mk 103 are my most favorited guns agance bombers, that is why i can Kuglblitz have to fight jets these day and not la-5 and landcasters

You are completly right, velocy is important factor. I would be honored if you could remake this post with your own words, to more pleasing form.

Armor can definitely help you survive machine gun fire from ground units.

It simply isn’t.

R3 maxes out at 45/30 while Kugelblitz maxes out at 60/20.
It also has a single 20mm cannon instead of 2x 30mm like you have on Kugelblitz, which means you’ll have to aim way more carefully.

Armour means you don’t just die to a rocket/bomb in your general postcode and you aren’t just a free kill for anything with an mg

Yes for pay to win players you can spend some real money to get aced crew.

Pen is and always was the most important factor. That is why we dont see Flakpanzer 341 in BR 1.0 killing anyking with one shot from any distance on map. Its simple as that.

You don’t need aced crew lol.

It simply isn’t.

You are right, armor can be beneficial when its working. Having ability to survive agance .30 can be very usefull when playing br 1.0 - 2.7.
But unfortunely we are talking about 6.7 BR where heavy 14.5 machinegunes guns are normal, rats with 20mm cannons (mentioned above). Planes with eveything from 20mm to 50mm as standard.

Having a protection agance .30 in br 6.7 for cost of speed is not a good tradeof. This is why its comical to me even mentioning Kugelblitz’s armor. Things would be different if Kugelblitz had armor of KV-220, that would be functional even agance some smaller autocannons and still it should be high as 6.7
Not even KV-220 with real cannon is 6.7

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Man am i glad 341 is forever locked away from people like this

To be fair i dont think that he would do much with the 341 seen how bad he is with spaag