Ger. Leopard 2a8 no LWS?

Machinery of War Discussion Ground Vehicle
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LOL
Sweden gets what it has ordered and bought PERIOD.

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I assume it’s the KF41 situation for some all over again (German engineered but no equivalent in the german TT) eventhough we get the 2A8 too.

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Unfortnately not. Sweden gets everything which somehow touched the northern hemisphere.

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nah he is just making terrible takes every two seconds purely out of spite

You could make an argue that Puma is a at least remotely equivalent

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I do have an argument here too though: I personally don’t see a reason for sweden to be it’s own TT and not split like singapore when we have nations with a rich military history such as poland that could be very well standalone too.

Anyway not what this topic is for, lets stick with the missing LWS ;)

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ever heared of subtrees?

oh yes you have since you make more terrible takes about them

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Because Sweden has its own large arms industry and it is basically a united Nordics tech tree (-denmark)

Compared to Singapore

but yes lets stick to the issue at hand :)

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This is a bit of a contradiction, the APS is far more of an disadvantage than the LWS will ever be

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I meant it more as in sweden would have gotten the L2A8NOR at some point soon anyway, it would’ve been cool to see germany get it standalone for atleast 1 update cycle and have the Strv 123A act as a buffer.

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Then you dont want even ground, you just want to have the advantage… as they would still be the exact same br.

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There is barely an advantage here, the Merkava Mk.4M had trophy for ages, the Abrams and T-90M Arena got it earlier too. It would just be a temporary advantage over 1 Minor nation…

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understandable

Personally i would have liked a STRV 123A more than a Leo 2A8NO even though its basically just a 2A7

but we know that copy pasting is the easy way

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So, there is an advantage for the lws, but barely for the APS… how does that makes any sense?

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The difference is between adding a vehicle later and never adding a system for a tank. (As I assume if it doesnt get the LWS this cycle it will never until another version of it comes).

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You are also assuming that a minor nation such as sweden would be getting two top tiers in a row, which looking at their timelines is questionable

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Yet not impossible as the german ground top tier has stagnated for quite a while and now gotten the EMBT and L2A8 back-to-back.

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Because the EMBT is not really a 13.3 vehicle at the same level as the 2a7, and germany is still a mayor, look how the minor nation that got the EMBT got sidelined.

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Tbf, Germany is a major nation, Sweden a minor one

The last top tier Tank addition for Sweden was the STRV 122B+ which got added December 2023 so 3 YEARS ago

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And before that the plss was added in 2020

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It’s funny, it reminds me of that time people pointed out the first Puma IFV varient added to the game was missing the spike launcher, then a billion years later they added it “as a different varient” (it’s the EXACT same vehicle just with the launcher attached to it), and ofc spikes on it do not work…

Oh well its the average rules for thee but not for me, some nations get everything added at once, some get nothing.