Yes as if you got it without AMRAAMs you still would get nothing new
they’d have the aircraft that they made, not 2 nations now having a better version of there aircraft
how is it better slightly better mavericks
Gripen C has better engine, 2 more pylons, better RWR, better Radar etc.
not in game
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yea cause gaijin doesn’t know how to model aircraft and they know they’d have a lot of people on them about giving another nation a better version of the aircraft they produce.
Making the A equivalent to the C is the fact gaijin didn’t wanna make UK upset about not getting a good aircraft but also didn’t wanna make Sweden mains mad by making another nation have a better version so they made it equal, So now they cant add the C to Sweden cause it’ll be exactly the same as the A, which is gonna make more people mad
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my god can you not wait to get the exact same plane with AMRAAMs
I think the game will be fine with these but they NEED to be stock. Stock jets are already miserable enough with SARHs and IRCCM not always being available, but with these they’re going to be completely unusable.
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There were some plans for it to carry up to 14 of them, but only on the wings. 1 on the outer pylons and 3 on each the middle and inner pylons.
Biggest problem is 16v16, it should be 10v10 max. There is way to much going on 16v16 AirRB needs to drop player count. Its sensory overload with that many players, radars, and missiles flying around.
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most of us agrees that this proposal charts would be limited at a maximum of 10 MICA’s - because triple racks never were made, but dual are possible.
also note, that we do not have recieved the GBU-12 loadout aswell.
where they actually made?
Well not exactly for Serial MICA’s, but if i remember correctly, M4K was used by DGA to trial everything new, and potentially the MiCa as well.
Some part of those trials remains under secrecy laws,…
However, creating a triple rack for trial purpose, seems a bit too coslty.
As the charts shows the 3 racks, a dual-rack maybe sharing similarities with Magic-2 one, is possible.
The Charts you showed up is for the serial model, whoch never came.
Well its an image from the maker of the plane… So yes it is.
but the dual rack for the magic 2 is a fuel tank, so if it shares some similarities to it, it should also be a fuel tank as well, and there is no evidence that the m4k was intended to carry 2 fuel tanks per wing, so you will also fall again short of those 10 that you claim.
IMO if it ever gets micas it should just be 6 of them, so you could get and 4 magic 2 and 4 micas, which should make it quite competitive.
Probability of kill doesn’t matter in War Thunder, if it did the R-27ER would be one of if not the worst missile at top tier. Unless the C-5 has got some actual seeker stats that are better than the R-77, your statement doesn’t mean anything (in War Thunder).
The C-5 has a similar range to the R-77 if you manually loft it, the R-77-1 just adds loft (no engine change) and its ‘range’ goes from 80km to 110km. The R-77 definitely isn’t lacking range.
You’re forgetting the grid fins which allow the R-77 to be more maneuverable. Should the R-77 really fight against the 120A/B because it has more range while being more maneuverable due to the grid fins? That logic doesn’t hold up.
R-77 will never reach 80 km range unless fired over M1 at 10km+ cause the missle itself is very draggy, and when launched at lower altitude its range rapidly decreases.
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That’s the same with any other missile, this isn’t anything new. The maximum range is used as a metric to compare things and it is not assumed they will be reaching their maximum range in every situation. It’s like with prop/jet engines, no one is assuming an engine is producing its full power at all altitudes, but a Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-100 (max thrust of 23,830lb) is definitely going to output more thrust at any altitude than a Junkers Jumo 004B-1 (max thrust of 1,980lb). To quote MiG_23M:
What is everyone trying to tell you here is,that R-77 fired in same conditions as AMRAAM will have significantly shorther range than the AMRAAM.
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im saying that in any situation other than the target flying in a straight line towards you the r77 will bleed speed immensely in comparison to the 120. sure it technically has a longer range in ideal circumstances but the 120 is more versatile and retains energy better in situations where the r77 overpulls and bleeds speed. they balance eachother out.
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