Yeah your right i was tired when i wrote that.
Type 89FV with fangs 😈
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Sorry for Off topic
Here is the old forum discussion about Night Zero Fighter with photo and some spec.
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Appreciate however I’ve seen it and the only picture shown is just one version of the A6M Zero.
Anyway thanks though.
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A quick question and apologies if that has been discussed and answered already.
I could not find any information if the Type 90/Type 10 or TKX were equipped with spall liners.
Does anyone have any source for this?
No. Japan never added one because they have never been truly ever in a proper confrontation. Such things wouldn’t make sense unless you were in war. So probably weren’t even aware of what spall liners are.
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登場以来、外見の変化をともなう大きな改修が行われていないが、15年にわたる生産の中で小規模な改修が施されている。これはおおむね5つのロットに分けられるといわれ、射撃管制装置の近代化と新型砲弾の追加により、火力は大幅に増強されている。防御に関しても、車内・砲塔内への高分子ライナー貼付など、外見から判別できない強化が行われている。
Since its debut, there haven’t been major renovations accompanied by changes in appearance, but over the course of 15 years of production, minor renovations have been carried out. These are said to be generally divided into five lots, and with the modernization of the fire control system and the addition of new types of shells, firepower has been significantly enhanced. In terms of defense, strengthening measures, such as applying high-molecular liners to the interior and turret, which cannot be discerned from the outside, have also been implemented.
If their second gen MBTs are already featured with spall liner, why would Type 90 or Type 10 not having it ?
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I don’t and no one trusts Wikipedia. I also didn’t necessarily say they didn’t I only implied that they may not have it since they have never been in direct combat ever. As the times they were in war was always support jobs way beyond the actual battlefield
The Japanese wiki has proven its reliability in my past comparisons with other sources. The information it provides closely aligns with my findings.
Consider this: must we wait for an actual war to recognize the significance of spall liners? Picture Japan facing a sudden attack; waiting until then to develop and upgrade all their armored fighting vehicles with spall liners would be too late. It only makes sense for them to have already developed and pre-installed this technology on their tanks, doesn’t it?
Moreover, examining the Komatsu LAV reveals what seems to be spall liners installed all around the vehicle, particularly behind its doors, strategically serving as shields during potential attacks.
Claiming that Japan lacks knowledge about spall liners simply because they haven’t experienced an active warzone seems nonsensical to me.
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its like that time a lot of people started to complain that the armor of the type 10 dosent make sense since its lighter than the type 90 and they have never been to a war etc etc basically excuses to say the type 10 shouldnt have as much armor
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Well we know that japan is using technologies that nobody else is using such as nanocrystal steel (which is still missing in wt).
ja.wiki is way more reliable than en.wiki on all things Japan-related
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Pretty sure the French have also employed lightweight composites similar to nanometric steel, Germany too, though for Germany most of that armor is on APC/IFVs.
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wich if im not wrong at least half of the weight compared to normal RHA was cut down due to the external armor and hull made out of this material
Idk about that but it should be around 4 times more effective then RHA iirc
ik that its insanely effective at deflecting rounds due to how the material works on high speed impacts
Speaking of which, when is someone going to bug report it
I doubt its THAT effective, signitficantly better than RHA yes but that much i doubt. There was a study about it from ~13 years ago. Its called “Ballistic performance of nanocrystalline and nanotwinned ultrafine crystal steel”
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IF anyone will try to bug report the armor again, here’s some articles on nanometric stuff which may or may not help.
41563_2021_1033_MOESM1_ESM.rar (400.4 KB) (PDF of scientific article mentioned by CIT since it’s behind a paywall)
This section right here
Until we get more info from JP MOD we can only speculate.
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