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I would not comment that fact that you ask proofs without sending it fisrtly but it is impossible to see mountings for internal weapon from outside.
But yes. Combat plane couldn’t be designed without weapon mountings at all

And yes, it is totally normal to use prototypes especially at first flights, without weapon as basic safety rules for pilot, prototype, and maintence crew.

The fact that first prototype at its first flight wasn’t armed means nothing in question that it cant be armed

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I mean we have artificially altered stuff already like the E100, Strumtiger and Tog II.

And yes I know naval follows different rules but there’s another example of incomplete stuff.

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If you look at this image, there are no mountings or ports where the guns could have been installed in.
J7W1 was a unarmed prototype.

Hey, this conversation has gotten a bit off topic from what this thread is intended for. Lets try to get back on track and keep discussion in here for Japanese and Thai ground forces.

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First of all, both of these tanks never existed neither did their armnaments.
secondly the track link of the O-I in the museum as I stated before was placed there to gather hype for a tank game when they annonced Japan as a new nation.
It’s simple as that.

Japan is incapable of producing and utilising such heavy equipment.

I won’t talk about the Ho-ri because I haven’t read on its details.

Hasn’t stopped gajin before and won’t stop them now as they maintain the previous rules.

I’m 100% misreading your comment but are you trying to say that the track specifically built for a ww2 tank was only made so an unnamed tank video game gets more advertisment?

Also as stated by others, the track was made specifically for the O-I and it underwent tests with it’s hull and wooden turrets. As long as part of a vehicle specific to it was made, it counts as an unfinished prototype, which gajin will allow to be added in its planned finished config.

Also not having the capacity to fully make and build it doesn’t matter, iirc the Sovetsky Soyuz couldn’t have it’s in-game armour structure as the USSR at the time couldn’t produce it, however as the ship was laid down it, it counts as an eligible addition, including with its armour.

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"As long as part of a vehicle specific to it was made, it counts as an unfinished prototype, which gajin will allow to be added in its planned finished config."
Enjoy using a tank made out of structural steel.
because that’s the best they could produce.

Besides that how would one produce a accurate model from just a 2D drawing, essentially making it fictional in a game that touts as Historical Accurate.

Again, read on the paragraph about the Sovetsky Soyuz.

We have the Ostwind 2 and Zestorser 45 (although it should have a different name).

If we really want to go there then:

Why do destroyers ranging from 1915 to the 1940s keep fighting eachother?

Why are ahistorical teams in realistic possible?

Why are tons of prototype vehicles playable when barely any actually saw combat (Dicker max and Stuer Emil actually did, don’t know about any others)?

Why do post war vehicles like the Strikemaster Mk.88, Bosvark, Pbv 301 and L-39ZA constantly fight ww2 vehicles?

Why do we have multiple unfinished prototypes and ships across several nations in its finished config? (<—THE POINT IVE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE, AS HAVE OTHERS)

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You’re joking, right?
The track link of the O-I was already documented in an article by Suzuki Kunihiro (鈴木邦宏) in the October 1999 issue of 《アーマーモデリング (Armor Modeling)》, after he visited Wakajishi Shrine — long before WT or WOT were ever released.

That was a full 10 years before World of Tanks launched, and 15 years before the O-I appeared in any game. Are we really to believe that a Japanese tank researcher was influenced over a decade in advance to promote a game that didn’t even exist yet?

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man i love this guy
we’ve got our own RazorVon for the Japanese sections
007_2

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Who?

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IJA_Experimental_105mm_tank_gun_01
the 105mm Experimental Tank Gun w/ assisted loader device


Type 96 15cm howitzer

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he changed names now as AlvisWisla
but man he did what this guy does, and it is such a beauty in the forum

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Nice gun but there is no use because neither of those vehicles were fitted with those weaponry.
Otherwise you end up like Saryn talking about how the Chi-Se would be the perfect heavy tank for 7.3 Japan.
which is also a tank that is enterly fictional.

My guy what do you have against Saryn, you keep on bashing on him for no reason.

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That’s not what you claimed. You claimed the following:

Which is demonstrably false and the fact you keep hopping between arguments just proves how wrong you are.
Additionally… There were 5 Ho-Ris in construction and half-built by war’s end.
For the O-I we have detailed construction sketches, a report from the test driver, and a list of damages sustained due to its weight in the short drive around the factory grounds.

Who mentioned the Chi-Se?

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There are no need for insults, and if anything your information thus far has proven far less trustworthy then his.

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You went from “These vehicles never existed” to “The gun never existed” to “The gun was never fitted”.

You got the third point right, but the suggestion quota is met then

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there is a certain irony

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