Got it. There are some documents I’d like to request through information disclosure, so I’ll try that someday. I’m really looking forward to it.
I just hope they won’t be blacked out.
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You was talked 2-3 times with question do you have the declassified and free to public documents and if yes could you share it. I’ve got ZERO answers by you on question “do you have it” and now you yelling like I am demanding by you dropping the classified document. Your behavior with meaning changing shows that probably you really don’t have anything because can’t even answer “Yes or No”
And I am repeating 4th time - do not send classified documents, but just say don’t you have any declassified one
Also your very skeptical realitionship to Saryn with no listening any of argument sent by several number of people and many times of calling “fake” the things which is not clear or even true is not really best proofs…
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About documentation requesting. Could I ask you don’t you know where it could be done?
I’ve found the possibility to ask declassification of document here:
Spoiler
https://www.mod.go.jp/j/presiding/joho/index.html
https://administrative-doc.e-gov.go.jp/servlet/Fsearch
But as I understood it is possible to be requested only if you are living in Japan.
Second variant is JACAR archive which has some after war military documents (but no manuals as I remember). But there is a little bit weird range because JACAR shows documents from 1950-1960 and then jump to the early 1990. And as again requesting is possible only in Japan
Could I ask, do you know other archives with the ability to at least see if there are any documents?
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I wish it was that, at least it’d have historical value. Instead we got a pipedream from Gaijin loosely based on the pipedream by General Dynamics.
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one would call that a pipedream punch in the balls
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Gaijin don’t go by any specific logic like that. They only care if a vehicle can use something in theory (even tested on specific ones counts afaik), then pick whatever they want from these available options.
This is also how we got AIM-9M and JDAM-ER, since both are technically able to be operated by the F-15J(M) / F-2A, even if Japan never had them.
Do you have a date for the manual?
AAM-3 was introduced in 1991, so after the EJ Kai. It would make sense to not be in the initial manual.
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it was still the best f-16 in the game till the 16c
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could argue its still the best with the F-16C (debaitable ofc but personal opinion)
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Then why even mention them?
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yeah well in the manual I have the EJ Kai has a big laser on it that goes bwoooooooooooom pew pew pew and shoots down all the missiles and enemies and stuff and they all explode like boom boom boom
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C is the best Fox-3 slinger, AJ is the best 12.7 model.
Technically, the RF-4EJ still had its gun for self defense, id love to see a goofy guns only phantom in WT.
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This whole thread is just you accusing Saryn of misinformation, then making claims yourself and that you have evidence but you aren’t sharing it. Then when you keep being pressured, you say you have access to the restricted documents and cannot share it. Then why make the claim? You could be misleading people by making claims without backing it up because “its restricted”.
Guys, the F-15J(M) is actually insanely stealthy. Wait why are you asking me for a source. BTW this other guy is obviously lying. Its obviously classified! Are you telling me to drop classified material? BTW that other guy is a big big liar. I can’t drop classified materials! Trust me bro! BTW that other guy is lying.
While everyone else is pretty much backing up Saryn’s claims.
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Trvke
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It also has been seen carrying AIM-9P and AIM-9L sidewinders
RF-4EJ with AIM-9P sidewinder
RF-4EJ Kai with AIM-9L Sidewinder.
Also I have some pictures of the RF-4EJ cockpit and WSO if one would find interesting.
One thing of difference in the RF-4EJ
The forward main instrument panel, Radar Warning System has been replaced with J/APR-6.
Instead of the J/APR-2 that would be on the “unmodified aircrafts”, (I assume they mean the F-4EJ’s or the RF-4E’s).
WSO Seat
Some other images related to the RF-4EJ I think you all might find interesting.
Although this one depicts a RF-4EJ Kai (note on the wing and tail antenna)
RF-4EJ Kai with TACER pod
RF-4EJ Kai with AIM-9L and LOROP pod
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So, uh, listen man, firstly, you’re wrong, there’s actually hundreds of images of both training and live AAM-3s being mounted on the F-4EJ Kai. Your manual is likely from before their addition.
However, more importantly, supposing your documents are still classified as you claim (Which given how old early versions are i don’t believe them to be, but regardless, as you believe them to be). Posting information from classified sources is against forum rules, even if you don’t post images from the document. It’s not my work to police this, so please stop before I have to drag in someone who’s position it is.
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Hey quick headsup even talking about Armament which is not publicly visible or widespread known is kind of leaking classified information
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Just for clarification, are you talking about the pictures that I posted or something else?
If my pictures of the aircraft I posted aren’t allowed I don’t mind removing them or having them removed.
Those from the RF-4EJ were from a magazine and is publically available
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Nah your pictures are fine, it’s just shyrlee is claiming their source is from the F-4EJ Kai flight manual, which is supposedly still classified. Them posting information from a classified source breaks the WT forum rules.
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f4ej ldircm when gaijoob!!!
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