General Japanese & JASDF General Discussion

looks like a modified F-2, with Delta and canards to match European countries

the double tail seems too much for the design,… maybe there to counter height of a single one?

From what i found this was supposed to be a design for F-2.

The design of F-2 if japan had enough money to do a whole new airwing design ^^"

It wasn’t built, however some parts of the project were made, such as a section of composite wing, and multiple parts of the AESA radar / RWR system.

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Both of these were also noted by US sources when assessing domestic FS-X before it was cancelled in favor of the cooperative design that later became F-2.

If only it wasn’t for deliberate US political pressure and bribery…

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Damn. At least it looks cool. Shame that they went with the Agile Falcon instead, without having to pay ridiculous licensing fees to GD/Lockheed the FS-X might have turned out cheaper.

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Wait, then that might fall under “incomplete prototype” and be viable for a new addition!

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Sad to plane that never been in skies. :c

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Was it? I am not sure that this project was passed to the building of parts and pn photo can be F-2 wing

Not cheaper, but not much more expensive either. Unit cost was estimated at 100M USD, which is lower, but still close to the unit cost of the F-2. It’s worth noting here that the F-2 was produced in lower number than FS-X was intended to, driving up the price.

Development cost was estimated at 1.2B USD, while development of the F-2 cost 3.27B USD, but it is also likely development cost of the domestic FS-X would’ve exceededthe initial estimate. Development cost of the F-2 was also split 40/60, meaning only 1.96B were paid by Japan.
That being said, avoiding the technology transfer, no worry about licensing (especially for variants, this is why all F-2s are still “F-2A/B”), as well as a stronger focus on the local development would still have been a great advantage of the domestic plan.

I hope so, would be nice to at least in game see a complete domestic FS-X.

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Yes, there is a US document about evaluation of Japanese technology prior to F-2 that also mentions the prototyped composite wing box shown in the photo.

Edit: I can’t find it currently, so take this claim with a grain of salt

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Might be partly due to how they can’t do much else to the F-2, if I had to guess.

Actually if you look at dates of development and program start this is slightly before things like the Typhoon and Rafale came to the public.

How to play the Thailand AV-8S late? That thing is pure suffer to me right now…

As with all Harriers:

  1. Learn to flare properly, due to the issues with how gaijin model their simplified IR signatures the Harriers have an abnormally high IR signatures that require perfect flare deployment with as minimal energy loss as possible.
  2. Rat it up, the one airframe advantage the Harriers have is low speed thrust/acceleration, use that hunt base bombers early game and to come into the furball at weird angles.
  3. Viffing can save you in a dogfight against less skilled pilots, by either giving tighter turns, acting as an airbrake, or bullying those trying to energy trap you by simply shifting into a VTOL flight style from a stall. So make sure to set your nozzle position keybinds.

I’d also advise to looking into guides for the Sea Harrier FRS.1 it’s extremely similar in game so most guides should also be applicable to the AV-8S late.

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Know this technically ain’t the right place for this bug report link since this is for a Thai aircraft, buuuuuut it’s in the Japanese tree so I’m just gonna put this here
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/uvO36fZV5n1m

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