Seeing as Romania is officially a subtree, shouldn’t it also be in this thread?
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Would be nice for Italy to get some heavy tanks in the tech-tree.
Hungarian IS-2 1943 and 1944 (notice 1943 has a pintle DShK aswell.
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I spaded all of Italian ground up until about ~11.0 and then basically quit the tree. Gaijin needs to massively buff and overhaul the entire rank 8 italian bracket.
The Italian ground tree is one of the best tech trees I’ve played.
Just started stock grinding the Leopard 2A4, and spading a 2A4 after years of not is a rather nice change of pace.
On my way to the 12.0 lineup that’s rather great.
2A7HU and Ariete AMV, with the other Arietes as backups.
Peak.
With the scout UAV changes I’ll likely use the KF41 in the top lineup as well.
I anticipate the new SPAA I won’t get until next year coming next update.
Plenty more vehicles to add and enjoy as well.
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You can discuss Romanian vehicles too. I didn’t include them in the thread’s title and on the “map” as their number of vehicles in game is very low. Additionally, Gaijin doesn’t seem to be planning a full on Romanian line, rather just occasionally add a vehicle to fill a void in BR, or a premium.
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In that case, I present the battle taxi
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The Hungarian Leo 2A7 is one of the best MBTs in the game, yes. Arietes, on the other hand, are one of the most disappointing. While they are fairly mobile, they have the same reload speed and similar mobility to Abrams while being much less armoured.
That’s what I do as well. My friend, who was the reason I started playing Italy in the first place (originally, I was a Japanese main) kept telling me that Freccia is much better than KF-41, but for me the KF-41 just works much better.
I will spend all my boosters to get it ASAP. I just hopes it performs much better than my Tan-SAM kai.
Also, Centauros are one of, if not the, most fun vehicles in the entire game. I got almost all of my nukes with them.
You are missing out on a lot. Top tier Centauros are absolutely insane and very fun vehicles. OTOMATIC is a heli removal and with APFSDS, it an also be a very fun tank destroyer. Hungarian Leo 2A7 is very competitive. The only rather underperforming vehicles at Italian top tier are Arietes.
By the way, I realized that the Hungarian Leo 2A7s are not always fitted with the .50 cal RCWS. Would it make sense if Gaijin made the RCWS optional as a modification? I can see how someone would prefer not taking it as it somewhat increases your signature.
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I find it unacceptable that we don’t really have a production variant of the B1 Centauro in the tech tree. The 9.3 Centauro is preseries production, the 9.7 is one of a kind variant, the VRCC is a Spanish premium production variant, Centauro 120 never reached any real production, Centauro RGO is a production variant, but again, premium and Omani.
I’d love to have a proper production variant in the tech tree itself, fe. the 3rd serie like this one:
There is even a suggestion for it:
Not to mention we are long overdue for the B2 Centauro.
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Doesn’t look like it. The previous Centauros were ok but basically just… ok and all the 11.7 one does (theres only 1 later cent on tech tree) does is give it a better gun and thermals from what I see
Otomatic is extremely bad :)
Yeah but I can play it in a better tree
Thats a ton of what you have to play, like 30-50%
How can you say any of what you said when you don’t even have those vehicles? Is this just a ragebait attempt?
Edit: appears you do have Centauro 120. Give it a shot again, perhaps you just need more than 13 battles to appreciate it’s rather unique playstyle.
hn bruh only reason its at that high of a BR is because people play it like a TD. Its a really good vehicle if you play it right bro
It would be a great defense against planes if only gaijin didnt break the proxy fuse against missiles and bombs. Used to easily destroy air to ground ordnance, but for some reason it doesn’t anymore. It can however still deal fairly well with helicopters. It also works wonders against scout drones, which is these days, ever since the scouting glitch came, a good trait as well.
I could say the same thing to you. Are you not intelligent enough to be able to decipher differences between vehicles by looking at what was changed between them? I doubt this is the case which leaves me with thinking, are you just ragebaiting?
You’ll note, I used specific language:
straight to the insults, I see
How does this work with, for example, saying the OTOMATIC is extremely bad? What are you even comparing it to? There is not really anything like it in the game, it is one of the most unique vehicles the game has to offer.
The rest of your reply doesn’t really need answering, my previous point stands - give it a shot, you may find a playstyle that suits both you and the vehicle, then you may see the vehicle’s qualities. Or you may not like the playstyles it requires, which is okay too.
Did you not continue reading?
I can say this because it’s been in the game for a very long time, I’m a very experienced player, and its extremely hard limited by the TYPE of SPAA it is…? Are you about to tell me the OTOMATIC ISN’T extremely bad? About 95% of the community will hardcore disagree with you.
The rest of the SPAA?
Other SPAA, who are all just about strictly superior?
I think what makes you come to conclusions like this is the SPAA label that it gets in the game. Think outside of the box for a minute. This ‘‘SPAA’’ has ways of dealing with MBTs head-on, something not many can do. The only other SPAA that comes to mind is the ADATS (0.3 BR higher anyway), but I don’t really see many people praising it for its anti-air capabilites neither.
Look at players who enjoy OTOMATIC. Most of them rarely use it for its anti-air role. It is very limited against the top tier jets, but most SPAAs are, only a handful can defend against something like an Su-30 fitted with Kh38MTs. But keep in mind it is at 11.3. Besides the Oto, only the Tor sits at that BR, which is undoubtadly better as anti-air, (namely against jets) but that’s basically it.
I feel like the only reason people might say the OTOMATIC is bad is because it is the highest SPAA type in the Italian tree and thus expect it to be on a similar level to end of the line SPAAs of other nations.
Also notice I never claimed it to be a great SPAA either, I said it is a fun vehicle. You calling it ‘‘extremely bad’’, however, I really disagree with.
Which is cool as far as “fun” goes, but its not exactly GOOD at this job either, it’s just CAPABLE of defending itself. It’s still a trash SPAA as far as ACTUALLY being an SPAA is concerned and it’s an incredibly mediocre if not downright leaning towards bad “light” tank if you try to play it like that as well.
Gee I wonder why that is the case