General Dynamics F-111B - The US Navy's Seavark

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This suggestion was originally posted on the legacy forum and has been imported over here following its permanent shutdown.

General Dynamics F-111B

Interceptor / Jet Fighter / Naval Aircraft

   Greetings! I’d like to reintroduce and suggest the General Dynamics F-111B for the US aviation tech tree. The F-111B was marvelous for its time, yet had a short-lived history in the US Navy service. Designed to respond to the US Navy’s new requirement and replace the naval F-4 Phantoms, it incorporated new TF-30 engines, AWG-9 and Phoenix weapons systems, and a swing-wing configuration. Ultimately, it faced development and political issues and was replaced by the newer F-14 Tomcats in the late 1960s, inheriting advanced features from the F-111B.

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Conclusion | Why it should be in the game

   The F-111B is a unique aircraft that could provide an opportunity to bridge the gap between the naval F-4 Phantom and the F-14A Tomcat in the naval aircraft line of the United States aviation tech tree. Players would get to play the rare Aardvark variant capable of carrying long-range missiles with sophisticated radar. It is also configured to take off and land from an aircraft carrier. If it makes it into the game, it should represent a pre-production variant of F-111Bs with Serial Numbers 152714 and 152715.

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Thank you for taking the time to read my suggestion! 😃

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Had no idea there was a fighter variant of the Vark! +1

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+1, we need a lot more Varks in game (this one between the F-4J and F-14A, and then the D & F in the line after the A)

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There she is! I had been wondering for a while now how long it would be until someone would make a suggestion for this beast of a Vark!

As it seems you’ve dived into the nitty gritty of this plane, I was wondering if you have and answers to a few questions of mine that I could never seem to find in my short time researching this plane myself:

1: Was (the F-111B variant your proposing be added) capable of carrying sparrows?
2: Can it carry a Vulcan in the bomb bay?
2A: If so, to carry the Vulcan, would it need to ditch both Phoenixes or just one?
2B: If so, will the Vulcan be angled downwards as with previous variants of the F-111?
3: What’s the maximum amount of Aim-9Gs it can take? I would assume somewhere around 6-8 but don’t know for sure, all depends on what rails this variant is capable of using.
4: is it capable of using any guided air to ground munitions such as mavericks, walleyes, GBUs which some other F-111 variants can use?
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5: No 3000Lb bombs? Is it not capable of carrying them?

  1. No clue. The sources never stated anything about the sparrows; all I can find is this information on the Internet: “Early F-111 models had radars equipped to guide the AIM-7 Sparrow medium-range air-to-air missile, but it was never fitted.” Perhaps the F-111B never got configured this way.

  2. In Standard Aircraft Characteristics, it said the F-111B is similar to the Air Force F-111A, so yes, theoretically, it could carry a Vulcan in the bomb bay the same way as the F-111A. I found no historical sources to prove this configuration for the F-111B on paper. Since both Vulcan and Phoenixes are so big, I reckon the F-111B needs to ditch both Phoenixes in the bomb bay for a Vulcan.

  3. Nowhere in the flight manual and Standard Aircraft Characteristics mention the limitations or number of heat-seekers. Since F-111A and F-111B are similar, six to eight heat-seekers make sense for the F-111B (6 on wing pylons and 2 in the bomb bay).

  4. Only in the flight manual is it mentioned that the F-111B could use air-to-surface missiles, conventional armament, or special weapons to provide ground support attack. No specific information states anything about certain air-to-surface missiles. Theoretically, the F-111B can carry AGM-12B bullpup missiles like the F-111A.

  5. Neither the flight manual nor Standard Aircraft Characteristics has mentioned anything about 3000 lb bombs. Theoretically? If the F-111A can carry it, then the F-111B can.

I want to state that the F-111B only has six hardpoints (four pivoting wing pylons and two fixed-wing pylons), so the F-111B will carry a limited amount of air-to-surface or conventional weapons, whereas the F-111A has many wing pylons.

Sadly, I had to do guesswork to answer your questions because the information for F-111B beyond its prototype and pre-production stages is very limited or nonexistent. If someone finds more information, it would be great to share them here!

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There’s another, the F-111D with Sparrows and AIM-9P-4 ;)

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I pray gaijin is willing to add the sparrows to it, given the lack of info regarding its compatibility with rails, wiring, systems/electronics and such. All I could find is that the radar of the F-111D is capable of guiding a semi active radar homing missile, but not much else. And especially no proof of it ever being mounted…

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Oooh! That’d be extra cool.

Am working on a suggestion for it currently but getting info on the YAIM-7G to justify it is a bitch. Then again, the Yak-141 has its radar missiles so maybe it’s not that important

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Historical accuracy is out the window, so I wouldn’t worry too much about it.

The issue is finding which pylons can take Sparrows. Its pretty easy to find out where the SARH missiles would go on the 141, info on the 111D is so scarce though.

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Should be the 4 inner wing pylons (3/4/7/8 iirc), the real question is if Sidewinders can be carried on 3a/8a alongside Sparrows

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Been having a lot of fun with the F-14s. I need this!

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Updated and reorganized F-111B’s messy specs; added supplemental data and diagrams of the F-111B SAC.

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A +1 from me, would be neat to have

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me to

Bomb bay mounts were only used for AIM-9Bs and only during Combat Lancer, so max would be 6 Sidewinders.
Also, the M61 is only in the starboard half of the bay so if the Phoenixes were carried side-by-side (I’m guessing so but haven’t checked) then you’d only need to sacrifice one

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