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Ngl I would rather them add a better f-15ex with these insane weapons instead of adding them to the f-15e, would make for good progression. Either that or add it to an f-15e with an aesa
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EX should be the penultimate aircraft for CAS and A-A until stealth, so I’d like to see it get a bunch of cool modern weaponry
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What does russia and china have as counter, ir kab250?
Ya. Although ik it’s seekerhead exits/ at least been shown for export, I’m unsure if it’s actually been fielded/inservice.
Since F-15I was eventually given AGM-65 it never used making it an objectively better F-15E, I don’t see why the F-15E shouldn’t get Spice bombs, since US equipment is constantly given out to other countries while the opposite nearly never happens.
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Give the russian su30sm the pl12 bcz allied china can use it in su30mk2
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Might actually get the BS drag values fixed then
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this. Since Gaijin is going with compatibility (even if said aircraft’s version is not compatible but just needs to be upgraded), I don’t see why not.
Though I absolutely despise this because it’s an excuse to copy paste and make countries less unique.
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Only the Israeli aircraft can use them (along with some foreign aircraft they’ve been integrated on). They require integration and are not compatible with their base airframes without it.
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That applies to other air craft but they’ve been given weapons that weren’t integrated (as I’ve said above su-30sm with kh38 on the basis su30mk can be integrated with them)
I sit. Know enough about Russian aircraft and weaponry to comment on that example specifically, but those are the rules as I know them. An aircraft must have tested or been compatible with a weapon it didn’t use to get it ingame.
Yeah no, i gave you a reasonable alternative, one that functions virtually the same as the SPICE 250, SPICE is a domestic Israeli weapon, the US have never used them, so it’s nonsensical to ask for them.
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Dumb argument imo. The f15e in Israeli tech tree gets mavericks it’s never used, why can’t America get similar stuff?
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Mavericks were a stop-gap solution until SPICE’s addition, for all I care they can remove them now
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But US aircrafts are compatible with SPICE or at the very least it’s designed so that integration would be seamless
“By applying our expertise in aircraft integration, mission planning and tailkit design, along with our experience in affordable streamlined production, we will adapt SPICE to meet U.S. standards so bomber and fighter aircraft can benefit from the added mission flexibility that SPICE offers.”
https://investors.lockheedmartin.com/node/44841/pdf
Again, I’m not advocating for it but Gaijin’s only consistent standard is that they will bend existing rules to ensure balance. The JAGM-MR being available for the Taiwanese and Indonesian’s 64E, when the version it uses is not compatible, let alone the JAGM-MR being in game is a prime example of that.
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You forgot the part of the policy where they only add these weapons in fairly niche scenarios where an alternative was not available (case in point being the examples you used, the Indo and Roc apaches wouldn’t have a FnF missile without JAGM).
However with the GBU53 (nerfed to IR/SAL) then you literally have a domestic SPICE 250 alternative.
Stop begging for other nation’s tech when you literally have options of your own, make an effort to ask gaijin for those instead of wasting your breath.
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It’s the latter, they can be integrated but they haven’t been. Without the integration they won’t get them ingame.
Plus US companies would have to produce the bombs & launchers, meaning any desired use of the SPICE series would either require buying from Israel or the logistical headache of new production lines
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Which would only apply to the Indonesians… There is already a chinease heli with FnF agms. China doesn’t need a Taiwanese Apache with JAGMs.
Even then the Indonesians recently placed an order for new 64Es which could very well be the version in which it’s compatible.
If that exception was only applied as a last case scenario, then I would agree, but here we are.
I would if Gaijin also had same energy. If the devs want to put the least amount of work when it comes to implementing weaponry in game, then I have no issue seeing israeli weaponry on american aircraft as a stop gap until american weaponry gets added in game.
I won’t be suprised if Israel gets JAGMs on their 64D even though it’s incompatible and they haven’t purchased any.
well apparently they seem to be okay with it as the thought that it could be integrated is good enough from them
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