@Wifi-Soldier98 I’m in Christchurch. I rarely get to play on SA because the snail wants me on NA. I haven’t seen bots for a long time.
So in essence - 1 match you kill 15 players, the next 2 matches you’re targeted by Ai Bots to prevent a mass wipe out again. It happens alot in game…
I remember previously many years ago - there were Bots,. they were even marked up as such in ground RB.
Now it seems it was changed to give them “Random names”, those ““Player bots”” ignore everything around them, even players driving right infront in Plain view.! YET they target specific players over and over. (Im not just talking about me here, ive watched countless replays) . I know - tunnel vision exists however - replays again allow you to watch what the “Player is watching”.
One of my many gifts from the creator gave me the ability to see things and critique/analyse which most wouldn’t.! In life and gaming. Ive seen some highly questionable activity and some clearly rediculous behaviours which yes has been tested over and over the years.
My point is very simple. No one will confirm that there are fake players “Bots” in ground RB. Those named players we all belive (you stated also) are created to give you the illusion you are against other “Normal Folk/Gamers” each with their own abilities.
Codeing isnt difficult once set up to create rules of Bias based on a players ability and or previous game outcome. Otherwise the best player in the world at WT would have a 100% stat rating across every single aspect and yet - that individual player will lose in the most rediculous way ( I garauntee it ) if in the "general population of Match Making!
So yes, Ai Bots can and are possibly used to drive a match into a certain direction.
Given that Most matches are full of theses “1 named” players suguests 1 of 2 things,
- Not enough players - despite 125k Players apparently online.
- Controlled game play to force the win/lose.
I’ve already identified that spawning in at the beginning of the game for example can be adjusted to give/remove the advantage, we allllll know RnG in game is completely farcical, 89mm pen killing a tank over 1 mile away. (i use that example as Ive done it and received it). So a game can be controlled by Ai not just in the generic game play but also in the enemies you are up against; by removing a strong player/s at the beginning will allow a balanced outcome and or force the win/lose scenario. (Ever had those matches where you spawn in and can barely get a shot in, dead twice and then game over? to the quite opposite in an open top tank - 8 planes flying around and completely untouched by CAS!?? )
You say its what one wants to see, I say I see it exactly as it is and imo - manipulated.! Sorry, as much as I enjoy the game and been a long term standing player, its become extremely obvious and in abundance.
125k players online, in amongst 14 BRs, 3 vehicle groups, 3 modes, across 3 server sets.
And the sense of matchmaking is literally like a Venn Diagram where some have all servers on, some only have one.
And thus it’s more weighted towards a lack of players in that specific range, at any certain time.
As the guy was saying, early morning in SA makes for a prime situation.
You’re going full conspiracy theory to try and say this sort of thing is…
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Yup, 125k along the “sets as you put it”, which lets face it 7 ranks, 2 game modes (excluding Sim which is minimal )
So
AAB 7
ARB 7
GAB 7
GRB 7
Naval - Maybe 1000 max players at a time
Sim - Maybe 1000 players at a time
Custom - no clue in fairness, but!! say 50K players
leaving maybe 70k players
so each of the above – 5k players… maybe!??
You saying Match making cant make balanced matches with that many people??
which then if you’re saying that is can’t,. then Bots are added.!?
Does killing the bots registered in your vehicle stat?
Ranks have nothing to do with matchmaker, it’s all about BR…
How do you not understand or know this? Oh hold on, because it’s not going to make your argument valid, hence why instead of the 14 BRs, you fixate on halving that with the ranks.
And the mode is still 3, because it doesn’t matter how minimal you think a mode is.
As I stated, 3 server sets, 3 modes, 14 BRs, at any one time there WILL be a lack of players.
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Exactly - hence im sayin Bots! But, will Gaijin ever admit to that! Nope¬!!!
I feel you’re trying to misconstrue and conflate ‘complaints’ to keep yourself on the ‘I’m right’ stupidity…
Hence why I said about ‘bots’ being a term that is so wide and obtuse, that people will mix and change the definitions to suit the whinge.
its not a whinge (and that term is again used very losely by those who think the opposite to defomate or obscure from the topic at hand - implying that one is stating utter nonsense and or “stupidity” as you put it. Its an observation that in game specifically Ground RB, Fake Players “Bots” are being used to manipulate outcomes based on years of experience, analysis and sheer obviousness.!
SA Server’s not very populated as a very small portion of nation’s have access to it.
Try connecting to NA if u can see how that goes
Bought the BP and Premium yesterday evening after a shockingly rediculous days gaming… then this happens.!!!
Can’t really say much can we.!! Coincidence much?? Just saying.!!"! Feed the snail and something weird happens.!
This, is a whinge… It’s absolutely you tinfoil hatting compared to anything actually based.
It’s all anecdotal and literally just wanting to bag on the game an gaijin to make out that they intentionally make this to make it harder for you, so you can blame them and not yourself.
Again, tinfoil hatting…
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UHUH!!!
You call it tin foil! I laugh at the ignorance you portray. Been playing far too long to know when the game/matches are manipulated in one fashion or the other, Im not specifically referring to myself either - but thanks for the singling out on that one! If you disagree then more fool you, you stay in your little bubble of a shell.! Insulting behaviour isnt the answer.
How do you explain 24 victories with 1 defeat in a row as opposed to yesterday when I could barely get out of the gate! Barely win 2 matches in a row.!
Funny how since I said about the Buying of BP and premium which as you would say — Has NO bearing on outcomes… Its funny how naive people can be!
The games today have been completely, I mean Completely different to yesterdays! Explain that one then if you think Im being a Whinge.! You’re defending the game as we all know you used to be a Mod.! Proof is in the pudding as they say.,… and this is one heck of a giant cake!!
Personally I call it very extreme confirmation bias
Personally I have a premium account and have had it for the last 2 years, I buy many premium vehicles and I often buy the battle pass, Im still barely manage 50% winrate so I don’t think buying stuff has anything to do with it. Have you considered that you just have good days and bad day?
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well whilst that be true - there’s good days, bad days and to the extreme (which are blatently obvious) 28 matches now in a row… so imagine Match making being selective, bots set to kill or ignore, RnG set to kill or bounce.! In a game full of codeing that is easily created to carryout Ai.
Imagine the worst player in the world… would that person lose allll the time - no, Why?? They wouldn’t play it! Would they become invincible to the point every shell bounces and every single one of their shots killed… Not difficult to imagine in a world where now Ai is controlling so many aspects of our life.!
I garauntee if you could look at the codeing of the game, I garauntee theres elements of bias control one way or the other.! however - garaunteed they would Never (in caps) allow that as welllllll couldnt let that get out into the world could we.!
A family member is a programmer for gaming Ai for a larger company, its opened my eyes significantly to the amount of control being implemented into every game now, to get you to spend, make you grind harder and harder. Its built in the game to make you want to play (regardless of the game).
True but warthunder has been like this far longer than AI has actually existed, plus have you seen the bots in custom battles? Or the bots in enlisted? I don’t think gaijin can program a bot to react to how well youre doing also everyone knows the best way to keep someone playing a game and putting money in is to keep the winning coming, its how gambling addictions work, very small wins dotted around frequently enough to make you forget how much money and time youve spent.
So any PvE game didn’t have AI? Man , we had very good AI in countless games before WT was even a thought that would give you nightmares!!
Except at one point , the bots were overbuffed and did 360 without losing speed , they were helicoptering and they’d play more agressive than DEFYN hahaha!
They nerfed it asap though… but it has happened.
Also, the “addiction” doesn’t come from winning… When you lose you push more and more till you win.
If you have 5 good games in a row you can call it a day . But when you need 5 good games , not more , and you have trash after trash game you’ll play 30 and you won’t even realize it.
I don’t need to see coding, i’m already convinced a long time ago that many “players” are actually bots.
Not players botting, like…hunting bots.
I have a lot of examples. They are not so hard to understand. Not to mention the RNG elements everywhere, especially with crews.
To be honest i don’t really mind that , till it becomes annoying…
Have you ever been killed by a player name that don’t even exist in the match …or in the game in general? I have…
the air bots on the airRB EC maps fly about twice as fast as their planes actually…
so no I don’t think gaijin can make competent bots
you found a CC then
I don’t know what mean by competent , but if they(Gj) want to they can make your life difficult .
I remember another example that if you were hiding there were bot hunters. They’d find you and kill you.
And they did exactly how some ^players^ play. Also, you’ll see crap like unflarable R-60s from 2 km .
And no it’s not…competent bots. It’s just to mess your game so you won’t get done fast and play more eventually.
In fact if i expect someone to pull that BS is GJ. Only to slow you down, frustrate you, eventually play more.
You leave a map , you’ll get the map 30 times in a row …
But i don’t care anymore. They are too easy to read.
Thats not because the game is rigged or anything though. Do you not understand why this happens? Its normally because either your engine is really hot, you flared too late and the missile never saw the flares out of its FOV or because the flares simply didnt go in a direction that the missile could see.
Thats just how gaijins matchmaker works, there will only be a few different maps avaliable and they change every couple hours