In the recent BR changes, the snail decided to tear apart Swedish lower tiers. Some vehicles obviously had it coming - the SAV 20.12.48 and M24DK were too good for 3.7. However, we will discuss the elephants in the room
Gaijin placing the Pvkv 2 at 4.3 and the Ikv 103’s blatant nerf
Firstly, we will discuss the Pvkv 2. This tank obviously has a good gun, but lacks anything else. It has a massive and wobbly forehead, a Pz38 chassis, and an ENORMOUS profile. At the same BR, we have the Jagdpanzer IV and T55E1 the JPz is features the same penetration, reload, and BR. However, it also has better mobility, an abnoxious UFP angled at 50°, and the only thing the Pvkv has over it becomes scopes and the 110g explosive. The T55E1 has worse armor, but an insane amount of mobility and a comparable gun. What on earth is the Pvkv doing at 4.3?
hopefully, the Ikv 103 requires no explaination. The slspgr m/65 HEATFS is the one and only thing it has going from it(as it’s a CW vehicle) and Gaijin tore it away from it. Then, they MOVE IT TO RANK 2 and move its BR to 3.3, where Sweden has a nonexistent lineup.
I wonder if your opinions mirror mine. Any thoughts?
btw, mods, I would use the BR thread but it’s locked pls don’t lock this
Idk if it’s that serious, I’m a danish main through and through but Sweden wasn’t the only one hit.
Everyone was hit, Japan lost their only 3.7 and don’t really have a 4.0 lineup but that’s a different topic for Japan.
Italy had a 4.0 lineup so not a big nerf but most 3.7 tanks got moved up.
Again I’d say maybe gaijin plans to fill those tanks for all nations but idk.
As for the IKV it’s in a weird state, some TD’s just aren’t good. They have meh mobility, slow reload and terrible survivability. Moving TD’s like that lower makes them worse. A Dicker Max at 1.0 would literally be worthless sure funny gun but literally every tank will pen you and out reload you and be faster than you.
I’d like gaijin to reconsider the IKV and it’s ammo given it’s just taking away a fun vehicle for those who enjoy silly stuff like that.
I could almost see the Pvkv 2, but the Ikv 103 as you’ve said gets worse the lower the BR. I would rather use it to lolpen a KT at 6.7 with HEATFS then have only the HEAT shell then go to 3.3 with it. I really am outraged by Gaijin’s strange and esoteric decisions on this front.
Nah PVKV II is straight dead lol, nobody is using that and uptiering their 4.0 tanks for one TD. it’s only good if you wanna run the LVKV and KV-1A, I’d say it would be good to start adding the Sturmi to the tree now rather than waiting. Every other subnation got their main vehicle that players have sought out. But I digress I’d say it’s not just going to be more of a slog for new players given the gap is quite barren with very mediocre vehicles currently around 3.x
It’s a really bad time to start grinding out the Swedish tree with gaijins clear hate for it and love for the big three. I personally hope that Gaijin will begin fixing those awful mistakes they have made recently to Sweden. And yes Pvkv 2 is dead. I specified “almost” for a reason. It is literally the only 4.3 tonk and having x3 J21 as backup isn’t uhh…great
I do think it’s strange those 2 were changed, though I am a bit annoyed the Sherman III/IV saw no changes. If they fix the engine to that of the M4 and not M4A3 it’ll be far less overpowered.
The other issue is they modelled the front plate as if the MG port doesn’t exist. All they did was put a cover plate over it, likely far thinner than the actual armour considering these were trial vehicles not intended for combat. So the weak spot should still be there.
First time? Every BR changes Gaijin nukes atleast one of my lineups to the point some are still named by their initial BR like 8.3 but the lineup now is 9.0
In my experience it’s one of the two best TD’s at that BR range by far - the other one being the Pvkv m/43 (1946):
Not only do they have good guns, they have also very good gun depression and outstanding if not unique optics, making them both excellent snipers.
The 0.3 rise of the Pvkv II I deem only fair, and it won’t affect the vehicles efficiency significantly.
Both those vehicles belong to my absolute favourites. Due to its casemate style, I tend to use the Pvkv m/43 more on larger maps with clearly defined corridors, whereas I select the turreted Pvkv II as soon as I expect enemies to appear on a “wider front” or on urban maps.
Yep, rising them is also understandable, but frankly, I think the Pvkv II rise is even more deserved, and I’m actually a bit surprised they have not increased the BR of the Pvkv m/43 at the same time as well…
SAV is OP,until it isnt. Once it empties the 6 round magazine its pretty much dead. You need to wait about 40s to get one shell into the magazine and then same time for every other to be put back,if you empty the magazine you cant shoot at all until the one round is loaded. And due to having no armor,you can just MG the SAV to death.
This is the 2nd or 3rd stage of the current decompression cycle. They are not “actually” being nerfed. Gaijin has always done these decompressions in waves. First, they increase the highest BR, move up a batch of the top vehicles into this new maximum.
Then, they wait, gather data, and increase the middle BR’s as needed months later.
Finally comes the lowest tiers, again after collecting more data and finally raising them as appropriate. These most recent planned changes are not nerfs, they are just a continuation of the previous raising of the maximum ground BR.
I know some people would prefer if they made changes accross the board all at once. But imo the way they have done it, and are still doing it, is better. It would create many many more issues doing it all at once, there would be a PILE of new “meta” and very overpowered vehicles. It is impossible to foresee all of the variables. So, giving the playerbase time to retest the new changes is best.
Making BR changes at all BR’s and ranks at the same time without allowing time for everyone to readjust would cause a massive amount of issues. Probably worse than how they are doing things now.
This has been how it has worked since day one, it will continue to be how it works. Best thing to do is talk about what the next/new issue is after the BR changes go into effect. Some of these vehicles might go back down, stay the same, OR go up even higher. Don’t stress about it.
This will happen the exact same way when they raise the top BR for ground vehicles in the future. Rinse and repeat.
Raise max BR+adjust BR’s of the top ranks.
Wait.
Adjust BR’s of medium ranks.
Wait.
Adjust BR’s of lowest ranks.
On and on, forever.
If you want to hear some more opinions and explanations of what/why about the current low/mid BR changes:
So it will face the excact same issues but now facing vehicles with even shorter reloads and smaller and faster targets. This change is going to render the Ikv 103 useless.
The APHEBC has 57mm of armour penetration. To compete with stuff at that low of a br br it should atleast get ammunition that doesent detonate on bushes, fences and anything else with a hitbox.
My suggestion has always been take it to 5.7-6.3 Then it can face the slower more armoured vehicles like Tiger IIs and IS-2s etc.
Then its smaller size and speed and that HEATFS will actually make some amount of sense.
With the BR changes around 5.0-6.0 it could even just be launched to 6.7 to help make a lineup with those vehicles, including the Pbv 501 and Bandkanon
(RB)