Gaijin, what the hell were you thinking giving Russian 45mm Prop Aircraft APHE belts?

Comedy gold

If You know that I’m experienced then also You should understand that I know which aircraft is better ;).

That is just how things are. Big bombs are carried by slow and big aircrafts with small anti-air capability in small numbers. Of course a 45mm gun is more effective. Saying otherwise is just pure bias.

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So the weaker armed plane is the more effective one eh? Well, all of history disagrees with you.

My A2D and A-1H which are heavy strike aircraft disagree with you. Once the bombs are off (or jettisoned if in combat) they’re not that bad at all.

They are just as bad, if not worse. At least the Su8 can climb, the Hs 129 can’t.

Ki-109 presents a much bigger and clumsier target.

XA-38 is barely better and still a free kill to any fighter.

262 A-1/U-4 is much higher BR than all of these.

Russian hate is when people call out an obviously undertiered overpowered plane with a fictional APHE shell

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Weaker armed plane? 45mm with 29 shells allow me to destroy 29 targets at the ground while Your bomb allows You to at best destroy 16, simple math.

Couldn’t care less about Your experience, as long as You don’t have 7 K/D in them.

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“Why won’t the people I’m arguing with prove my point for me? They clearly must be biased”

Why can’t you perform this experiment? You have both aircraft, but you’re so certain in your own opinion you won’t even test it? An opinion you’re apparently basing off 2 battles in stock aircraft? I doubt you’ve even unlocked the full APHE belt yet, let alone the gun accuracy mod. And there’s no way you’ve gotten the 45mm on the 9UT, so those battles can be excluded.

You are in no way qualified to pass judgement on them.

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This is called a one way street ^ and is why you are very biased.

Oh look: my very “ineffective” a-2D, which I was being engaged my enemy CAS and SPAA and I still got 5 kills wow.


I’d love to see someone get 29 kills all 1 shot. (Showing your bias again)

Also, bombs have a good chance of multi kills. 45mms do not.
Unless a Tiger II brings full Ammo and is next to an aa

You don’t carry 29 bombs. We’ve already done the math in this thread, you just keep denying it.

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Sigh… blissful ignorance.

Oh yes let’s just void all but Russian vehicles.

Tell me you’re anti-Russia without telling me.

What’s strange is I’m getting 4-6 kills a life minimum in my A-2D, but it’s got bombs, so it’s no OP. Now imagine I could get 4 kills per 4k bomb. If I was that lucky, and got one per phone drop, I’d have 14 kills per life.
Still pretty good for 5 kills in a worst case scenario, but that’s bombs in a heavy strike fighter. Not OP clearly.

You mean You have bombed 3 people and one of them could be killed by 20mm?

Really proving the point here.

The thing is it can happen. With bombs It can’t.

And what does it change?

So You have at least 4 K/D in A-2D?

Oh it is ~2.86, nothing near 4 You were saying.

Just a casual game for the start of the day ;)

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To be clear, this is a “whataboutism”. The existance of an OP vehicle does not disprove the existance of another unrelated one. Not that I’m saying the A2D is OP, it’s debatable, and off topic for this threat.

I’ll ask again because you dodged the question. What makes you qualified to judge the Yak-9K when you have exactly 2 games in it?

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I was referring to my games today, not overall. I haven’t played the A-2D as much as you I’m sure, it’s a new vehicle to me, and getting used to any vehicles takes some games. Well get it up in kd don’t you worry ;)

Funnily enough with my air targets belt, I was able to kill a tiger 1 on the A-2D.

Secondly, if it’s so easy for a hardcore player such as yourself to score 29 kills, let’s see it.

Lastly, “The thing is it can happen. With bombs It can’t.” so if I have a bomb… that kills any vehicle
In a 20 meter radius, and I drop it, and there’s 15 tanks in that radius, I can’t kill them? Then with the additional bombs I’ve brought, I can’t kill more tanks? Or the 4 20mm cannons with 37mm pen?

Terrible arguments again on your part.

Range, danger, kill radius etc. with one bomb I can kill upwards of 3 tanks, let’s say with a single 500lb bomb. I also can sling the bomb from height, without exposing myself to any true harm. You, have to dive and get close enough exposing yourself to SPAA.

Care to send that replay link? As this again looks like another perfect situation for you. I do also find it funny you seem to single out German vehicles. You must like they have worse SPAA than USA or the like.
Oh look, there’s not 29 kills there either.
And oh look, using a broken mechanic of bringing a reserve tank to get lower SP cost to then spawn a plane to stay in the sky un-oppposed, as you know, there will be no spaa or CAP to defense against you.

Miracle in that, reigning free in the skies, now if I played like the hardcore player that you are, I may have more kills in my A-2D, but I don’t.
Planes to me are meant for air or as a backup to ground, not a direct, “I got enough SP, I’ll hop in a plane move”

Oh, so if I have 3 games where I haven’t died and killed enemies, then I can tell that in that day I’m doing infinite K/D. Good to know.

Of course You can, thanks for proving bombs are not that needed.

I have never said it is easy, what I have said is that it can be done when You are using an aircraft with 29 ammo that can one shot all the vehicles.

In order to destroy more than 4/5 enemies that are near each other, You need a PE-8 with 5000kg bomb or Lancaster with 12000 Lbs bomb, meaning that You only have one drop that can always go wrong and near to none anti-air capabilities. Not to mention that when You reload You will be at the altitude that allows SPAA to take care of You.

Terrible understanding of the game on Your part.

On lower tiers or open-tops maybe, in most cases 500lb bomb can kill one vehicle.

I can shot my 45mm from a distance without any issue against the air.

Oh no, all the single situations I was in that led to 7 K/D! I must be the luckiest man alive.

Oh no, tactic that works for everyone.

I’m a tanker mainly, I use aircraft to only prove that they are overpowered ;).

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Obviously undertiered and overpowered? Yes, probably.

Fictional APHE? Ehhhhhhh… Unfortunately there is evidence that an APHE round did exist.

The part that is highlighted with red “APHE” text translates to "“experimental armor piercing high explosive round for the OKB-16 cannon”, with OKB-16 being a sort of pre-standardisation name for the NS-45, kind of like the M26 was T26E3. I triple checked this translation with both google translate, an image translator and people that actually speak and write Russian.

Thank for proving my point, that an aircraft, with bombs is far more effective ;)

By that metric my P-59A k/d must be out of this world, must be 20+

You’re telling me, you knew how to fly every aircraft / drive any tank immediately eh?

Nor did I ever say it was easy to get 30 kills with a 2500kg bomb, but it’s still do-Able no?

45mm pen degrades over distance unlike bombs or rockets.

Considering you refuse to show the replay, it seems pretty lucky to me.

Meanwhile, while bombing I got shot at by spaa and aircraft, taking out a fighter, and Spaa, if there were more, I would’ve slung more bombs. Not hard.
Thus, all other cas are more potent, if they have more options for weapons.

The NS-45 has pretty good velocity retention. At 1000 meters it still has 38 mm of penetration (compared to 59 at 0 meters) which is still more than enough to go through roof armor, and not to mention most shots won’t happen from this distance, more like around 500-700 meters where it has 48 mm of pen.

I didn’t but whatever makes You happy.

In most cases, yes.

It is not as You have one bomb and there can be max 16 players around ;).

It really doesn’t if You know what You are doing. But I don’t expect someone with lower than 5 games to know it.

It would be great if Your own profile would back it up, but it doesn’t.

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Still though, bombs are the more reliable with guns / cannons.

Honestly I wish I was good with the Zunis, since the A-1H can carry like 40 of them.