Gaijin need to add spall liners to Chinese vehicles

sounds like a weird guy

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yea

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I couldn’t care less about what they are based on your opinion, also you can see more pictures on the first post of this thread, additionally all the reports that used this informations got forwarded FYI.

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I feel like the lack of transparency has always been an issue with Gaijin. Just look at how much hell was raised just to get them to talk about the spall liners for the M1 and stuff.

If no one makes a big stink about it, then they’ll just keep operating in silence to keep us guessing… and the community loses more and more faith in the dev team. I often wonder what goes on behind closed doors and how much they’re not telling us when they implement or refuse to implement certain features of the game…

Is it balance? Is it actually a legitimate reason to implement or not implement a suggestion? Is it just incompetency and they have a laundry list of things to work on? I often wonder these things because they don’t tell us these things at all.

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I see, I’ll edit my post. I just saw the bug report on the community report page.

3rd stage of grief, bargaining and desperation

their dev team is split into two teams. one russian speaking , one english speaking. if the russian side doesn’t agree with something or if it " makes russia weaker " or makes U.S Tanks even 40% as effective as they should be in IRL it doesn’t get passed. Look how they did the japanese tech tree, they just added the F5E for japan, after years of japan not having a jet of comparable flying ability like the F5s of other nations, they finally add it.

This is not relevant only to US vehicles, and additionally M1’s got a 5 seconds reload, a quieter engine sound, as well as the HSTV-L this patch.

Also, Russian vehicles are far from being the best vehicle in this game, Leopards have showed this.

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Thinking that 10.0-10.7 MBTs should get spall liners is moronic.

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ZTZ99A, WZ123AY, VT4A1 are not 10.7
ZBD04A is 9.7, and FYI M3A3 Bradley got Spall Liners, so does Lvkv 9040C, while they sits at 10.0

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If they had them, they should get them.
You do also realize that the Swedish Lvkv9040C gets a FULL spall liner coverage + 2 extra crew members that no other IFV gets at 10.0?


I would say that’s a considerably more dangerous vehicle than a ZTZ-96A with spall liners or a ZTZ-99 with spall liners. And I personally prefer IFVs far more than MBTs for their multikill potential.

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M3A3 got spall liners… around only the missiles lmao. Its practically uselss, not to mention the Bradley is debatably worse than the ZBDs and BMPs

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Well I never said the LvKv was fair. But I don’t think the 40mm is as dangerous as a actual MBT 125mm.

Doesn’t matter, it still got them, why the ZBD04A shouldn’t get them if it had them?

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Of course it isnt relevant to just U.S vehicles, the Reload speed is something that should have been baseline for abrams , Leopards British tanks for.years??? and just now they change it? The Abrams engine was the loudest engine in the game for how many months / years??? the HSTV mght as well be removed, the tank isn’t even 1/10th of what it should be. i don’t even use it anymore.

Gaijin just sits back and ignores bug reports for years.

It certainly does matter lmao. Thats like saying the M3A3 and CV9040s are basically the same for survivability because they “both got spall liners”, when the Bradley’s spall liner has zero crew protection

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I would rather play the Lvkv with the 40mm than the 96A with the 125mm.
In fact, I usually try not to spawn the 96A or 99 - my favorite vehicle is the QN506.

IFVs in the hands of the right player are far more dangerous than MBTs.

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So do you think it would be fair to add spall liners to other 10.0-10.3 MBTs too? M1, 2A4, Ariete, Strv 121, Challenger, T-72, T-80?

if they had it yes… but most of those didnt.

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See, if they actually gave an explanation of why they make certain decisions, I would be way less upset and jaded, and maybe come to accept why Gaijin makes these decisions.

War Thunder has always been marketed as a “realistic military vehicle online combat game”, but then these devs would always go behind the player’s back to DO things that would contradict what they’re marketing themselves as. Players come from every corners of the world in hopes of having their favorite vehicles depicted accurately in the game and the devs marking a report as “acknowledged” and then ignoring certain ones and letting certain ones be implemented immediately afterwards with little explanation it is simply insulting to the people that took their time to make a pretty well structured report only to have it ignored.

I feel like Gaijin fully cultivated this environment and they should answer for it.

Back on topic though, the reports for a lot of these vehicles seem to be well structured and convincing, I only hope that all vehicles that have adequate evidence to back their innacuracies should get their fixes.

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