I mean i see it the same way but France out of all nations received a sub even before Japan did so i consider it possible.
Probably because Japan’s lineups are some of the most efficient in game KDR wise globally and DMM has to be kept involved in every change made to the tree as DMM directly markets any changes made to said tree back in Japan.
DMM functionally owns the Japanese tree in WT, to a degree Tencent did more or less the same with the old Chinese tree back when it was exclusive to China as well.
Interesting. Funny enough it seems more than a hindrance rather than a positive to be under the influence of DMM, it puts another step into the whole process and makes it slower.
Welp, the update should be out in one or two days, it look’s like we will have to wait a few more patches.
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Speaking of Chinese tanks underperforming, why do they have the 3rd worst shell at top tier when in real life they have one of the best? Also have you noticed Chinese guns at top tier having very bad post-pen damage? Plus they got nerfed along with every other autoloader tank but gaijin still won’t give it spall liners.
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Sadly, the DTC-10E/S shell community report: New APFSDS DTC-10E/S should be added into Chinese MBT // Gaijin.net // Issues
Got… deleted. Because it used classified materials as a primary source. And all of the secondary sources are photos, along with some tertiary sources. Which they… don’t accept.
So:
- You can’t make a DTC-10E/S shell report with a primary source because they took it and deleted it
- You can’t make a DTC-10E/S shell report without a primary source because they won’t accept it
It would basically have DM53 performance considering the nerfs they apply to all shells.
But China simply isn’t allowed to have that.
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Btw you should make a suggestion about the experimental/new chinese apfsds round. It pens 800mm+ armor at 0°. ZTZ 99A, ZTZ 99 and ZTZ 96 can use it.
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Do you have any info on this?
Its name is DTC 17 125mm.
Velocity of the round is 1920 m/s and something weighs 31 kg(Probably total weight)
A chinese guy posted the round’s manual on the forum but it was removed for probably being classified.
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Well how are we supposed to show Gaijin the round if theres no info on it. (classified means it doesn’t exist in WT)
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Maybe we can try finding some brochure or similar documents. Was it ever shown in any military expo?
Some reports can also find their traces, but most of China’s weapon report titles only mention certain types of shells/missiles/fighter jets, rather than specific names
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There’s another round called DTC201 it pens even more. Almost 860mm RHA
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There’s actually two new APFSDS rounds that China apparently has, I have the pictures of both of the schematics and information, however, it’s questionable if they are even real…they’re called DTC17 and DTC201
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If anybody has info on this maybe we can create a forum and a suggestion.
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If you are talking about the manual then I have seen it as well. But dont post it before talking to a technical moderator.
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IMO its probably more important to focus on 30mm ammunition than 125mm within the current meta. China operates many IFV & SPAAs using the same 30x165mm caliber. China may have produced dozens of different 30mm round compatible with both the current 2x IFVs in game as well as many future vehicles. We don’t even have a thread to catalog this mess:
The Chinese 125mm is still adequate at top tier, with good ballistics & post pen- survivability is a greater concern for MBTs- IMO the ifvs are the ones who could use more of the ammo bump.
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Yeah, actually do we have some programmable ammo or ammo with fuses? It would drastically improve anti air capabilities for the ZBD04A.
If it is an equivalent to the 3BM60 wouldn’t it be useless? from in game penetration values it would be a boost of 3mm of pen… please correct me if i’m wrong.