Should Gaijin allow fox-3 missiles to be fired through the IRST?
All but two tech trees now have a top tier vehicle with IRST as of the latest update:
Russia: Su-30SM2
France: Rafale
UK, Germany, Italy: AESA-Eurofighter
China: J-10C
Sweden: Gripen E
Japan: Su-30MKM
Only the US and Israel remains without an aircraft using IRST.
Gaijin should now allow us to fire fox-3 missiles through the IRST.
You would only really use this at close range and at that point just use normal PD lock or even CW. Im gonna vote no because even though you would only use it at close range, I feel it still might be too OP, especially if used right.
I think first we need US and Israel to get legion pod on F-15E and then also the next generation of IR missiles. If we get new IR missiles, this wouldnt really be that OP and balanced with the new gen missiles
You should rethink this. Firing IIR missiles through IRST is way worse than firing fox-3s that warn you through IRST.
I know, but at a close range when this would be most effective, you wouldnt have time to notch.
I agree that it isnt comparable, but it would still be rather OP if used right in the current meta
I could say that at close range, it would be almost impossible to flare the IIR missiles as well. For instance IRIS-T SLM is pretty potent once it locks onto you. I mean the argument doesn’t really hold water here since IIR would be harder to evade and you’d also have similar time to notch compared to a radar missile at close ranges.
Ig why not?
But only fire, without datalink
I’d prefer not until we have better systems ingame for electronic warfare. Wouldn’t be absurdly op atm, but I’d like to hold off on it for just awhile. Once jamming and other systems make their ways, and next gen IRs as well, I’ll gladly say yes.
Even better then this, i really want them to allow datalink guidence from IRST, for the AAM-4 and any other one that might be able to do that.
I tested it in user missions, and it can actually be done via assigning constant designation sources. Its lowkey not as broken as you’d think it would be. Because ublike radars which are perfectly accurate, IRSTs arent, so they dont just guarantre a hit.
only if the aircraft could actually do it.
Id love for PIRATE to actually be worth using from this
I can’t wait until I can use the F-14D IRST to fire Aim-54C ECCMs and AMRAAMs from 50km+ completely undetected
So, no, the F-14 isnt a plane with that capability. It can slave its radar illuminator to the EO/IRST, but from what ive read the illuminator does need to stay on. So it would still give a launch warning.
As long its a real ability that an aircraft had, sure. We are missing some abilities for IRST like slaving the radar to the IRST, would be especially nice on some planes that don’t have PD or MTI.
You used to be able to launch with the IRST on the Typhoons earlier this year, then they reverted that change.
It shouldn’t be locked to AESA only Typhoons.
f106a has irst, that totally counts
And the F-8E Crusader.
And F-104s
Not necessarily. The F-14s can launch the phoenix in ACM mode on IRST alone (or even without that in boresight mode). As there is no range information, it just turns on the missile ARH sensor immediately, and launches in the general direction pointed at by the irst, without lofting, until the missile seeker locks on a target. The missile will run out of battery power in less time, and the target´s RWR will still be triggered by the missile’s sensor, but the F14 itself won’t be detected directly.