Gaijin and modern NATO armor

They need to remember this interview.

they won’t
for them they think they (sure none of them never serve) know more than the one who actually serve due to ego

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Its more that I worked the program.

They dont know the actual effectiveness of the armor or the bullets in modern tanks.

That is a fact

How close they are i cannot say

The important detail is that nobody else knows either unless they have access the classified information

Soooo. They can basically change values a bit here and there to balance the game however they want

The fact they say they need documents is a lie.

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you know when they got the eurofighter docs they immediately change the most of the thing, its still has missing stuff but thats just tell you how they are
Things like HSTVL/RDFLT XM885 Apfsds round they stated they need exact military document(you can visit Spookston video on YT)
they refuse to buff it historically
sekret documents are happily accept internally
(might get flag for this tbh)

They have to have standards. But applying thembin this case is asking for something that doesnt exist.

Which is stupid.

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they have standard
double standard
and they also have something call the monkey paw effect that has been running for basically since the game came out

Indeed they are Players been given lot of documents throughout years yet nothing changes much
Which bring me the question
does they really care about historical like they really love to present themselves?
artificial
or they just lied to customers which is us players
as for me seem like they didn’t care about it historical or balanced
DM53 for example many sources said it had anti era yet still not in the game but turret basket? now?
Other case is Leclerc long ago that they remove CITV from it due to one document state that they don’t have it yet French community gave the source that they can use historical round that better than OFL 120F1 and did they get it? No
Why they do all this? No idea laziness? incompetent? Nobody knows

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So how trustworthy can Jake collins armor page, bob armor page and tank net be? all three citing the 120mm M-829A3 between 930mm 960mm and 970mm respectively at 1km and 2-2km?

edit: Don’t take it wrong, it would be absolutely unbalanced and busted if the actual values were added

Not really the point.

The point is that without classified documents nobody really knows. Therefore Gaijin can do whatever they want. When they claim “Historical documents” They are blowing sunshine.

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It’s basically a concept of moving the goalposts when talking about historical documentation

Welp… So much for the spall absorbing trunnion, it’s not even there.

In all seriousness, yeah this is just a massive nerf. They couldn’t even bother fixing the hydraulic pump placement

its here, just invisible in x-ray

U right
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It really does seem like reports classed as “suggestions” are actively used to assist with vehicle balancing.

Just look at what they’ve done to the F-14s.

The report is barely two months old, and could have been worked around for the -14B (at least) by replacing in kind the basic AIM-54C with the “-54C(ECCM/Sealed)”

And yet the following report is nearing 2 years old at this point, and yet somehow still remains to be implemented. Which of course lead to the F-14B missing out on a buff that could have improved the radar’s performance.

[DEV]The F-14B should be impacted by this change to IRST/EOTS

Presently the F-14B doesn’t use its EO tracker as part of its STT automation. As such isn’t subject to the fix requested.

The fix for the aircraft mentioned in this report is only to resolve the automation rapidly changing between radar and IR/EO while in STT. It isn’t to grant full launch capabilities in those modes and doesn’t allow for it when manually switching to IR/EO modes.

It’s also partially why I try to avoid reporting direct Nerfs where possible, since often Gaijin doesn’t take nuance into account when implementing them.

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how is the abrams turret basket model
u got any protection analysis show, also does it spall or catch it(im not on my pc)

I’m not really sure. I don’t think it’s absorbing shrapnel and if it is, it’s being outweighed by the amount of shrapnel being generated.

The thing is that side shot center of mass is usually a one shot kill even before the the turret basket was added. In my opinion, all this does is increase the area in which you have the possibility of getting a one shot kill.

I can’t give a definitive answer, I should’ve done tests pre-patch

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Well, this certainly looks like each section makes new spall so who tf cares if one section eats some spall, the last section is still gonna spall like crazy.

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In Leopard models the turret gets now jammed with virtually every hit. This turret basket always gets hit and also doesn’t protect, spall goes through.

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Still no word on the bumped bug reports either

Very low confidence. Especially if it claims such a high penetration figure without any kind of basis. Instead I recommend the following article.

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