Hello this is an improvement thread for the Fw 190’s and the Ta 152’s, it’s about everything that’s missing, wrong and broken with them.
i hope this leads to a good discussion and bug reports that (hopefully will be fixed)
keep in mind i am not very well versed in everything related the Fw 190’s and Ta 152’s, so if anything is wrong or missing please tell me about it or help me add it.
Currently it's missing a lot of things like
- A proper flight model (from what i understand currently they turn too slow, have bad energy retention, over correct on snap turns etc.)
- normal engine cooling (currently they heat up really fast and barely cool down and thus cannot attain their documented speeds)
- proper models for the fw 190’s and Ta 152’s (from what i understand the landing gear on many fw 190’s are hinged wrongly and too long, some also have wrong propellers etc. the Ta 152’s especially the H-1 is the biggest offender with much of the X-ray being wrong, the propeller being the wrong model, the landing gear being wrong etc.)
- all Fw 190 A’s (except the A-5/U2 and) and Ta 152 C-3 missing bombs (like SC 50/ER4 rack, SC 250, SC 500, Flamm 250, Flamm 500)
- all Fw 190 A’s, D and Ta 152 C-3 missing SD, PD and PC bombs (especially the SD 50 and SD 70 which are already in game)
- all Fw 190 A’s, D, F and Ta 152 C-3 missing cluster bombs (AB 70, AB 250-2, AB 250-3, AB 500-1 etc.)
- all Fw 190’s and Ta 152 C-3 missing Stabo and Dinort rod variants of bombs
- all Fw 190 D’s and A-4 missing Wrf.Gr 21
- all Fw 190 A’s onwards from A-5/U12 missing the R/1 Rüstsatze giving 2 WB 151 underwing gunpods (same as A-5/U12)
- fw 190 A-5/U12 missing the WB 151 from the X-ray
- Fw 190 A-8 missing the /R2 Rüstsatze (outer MG 151/20 replaced with MK 108 with 55 rpg each)
- Fw 190 A-8 missing the /R8 Rüstsatze (outer MK 108’s + extra cabin and windshield armour, also known as the Stürmbock)
- Fw 190 A-8 missing Krebsgerät (centerline rear facing Wurfgranate 21)
- All Fw 190 A’s and F having incorrect windshield armour (currently 57mm, should be 50mm)
- Fw 190 D’s and Ta 152 missing R4/M (not sure if they also used the R4/HL)
- Fw 190 F-8 missing M-8 HE rockets
- Fw 190 F-8 missing fliegender panzerschreck I, II, II and IV
- Fw 190 F-8 missing Wurfgranate 28/32
- Fw 190 F-8 missing Panzerblitz 1
- Fw 190 F-8 missing Panzerblitz 3 (R4/M)
- Fw 190 F-8 missing BV 246 Hagelkorn (glide bomb/anti radiation bomb)
- Fw 190 F-8 missing SB 1000
- Fw 190 F-8 missing SD 800 RS Kurt Bouncing Bomb
- Fw 190 F-8 missing Bombentorpedo
- All Fw 190 A’s, D’s, F and Ta 152’s missing the new cockpit armour layout from the Mistel 2
- Mistel 2 either being incorrectly labeled as an A-8 (it has the F-8 armour layout) or has the wrong armour layout.
some of my reports for the fw 190, Ta 152 and Mistel 2:
Some of my reports for the fw 190, Ta 152 and mistel 2:
YOU CAN DO YOUR PART TO HELP BY CLICKING THE “I HAVE THE SAME ISSUE” BUTTON ON THESE POSTS!
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Other people’s reports and suggestions about the Fw 190, Ta 152 and Mistel 2:
Other people's reports and suggestions about the Fw 190, Ta 152 and Mistel 2:
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(personally not 100% sure about this one, as the manual for the A-8 states 400 AND 475 rounds)
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Community Bug Reporting System (relevant for the Ta 152 H-1)
Community Bug Reporting System (relevant for almost all Fw 190’s)
Community Bug Reporting System (relevant for the Fw 190 D-12 and Ta 152 H-1)
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Rüstsatz 2 Mounting for the Fw 190A-8: Small Bird, Big Hammer
Images and Documents
Bombs:
Bombs:
i know this is a fuel tank, but it does show the capability for bombs.
Wurfgranate 21:
Wurfgranate 21:
Krebsgerät:
Rockets:
Rockets
R4/M
Rüstsatze /R1
Rüstsatze /R2 & /R8
Armour:
Armour
Fw 190 F-8
Fw 190 F-8
Rockets
Fliegender panzerschreck
keep in mind there are 4 versions of the Fliegender panzerschreck! (1, 2, 3 and 4)
Panzerblitz
Panzerblitz 1
Panzerblitz 2
Already ingame, but i suggest a model update giving it’s it last missing fairing piece
Panzerblitz 3 (R4/HL)
Wurfgranate 28/32
Bombs
Bv 246 Hagelkorn
This glider was designed by Richard Vogt, at first under the designation of BV 226, which was later changed to its definitive designation BV 246 on December 12, 1943.
It was intended to be dropped from a Junkers Ju 88 or a Heinkel He 111 bomber, either of which could carry three of the weapons, and was to be dropped from a height of 7,000 m (23,000 ft) at a speed of 550 km/h (340 mph), giving it a range of up to 210 km (130 mi). In a slight dive the Bv 226 could reach a speed of 900 km/h (560 mph).
Wing, showing the steel spar beneath the cement casing
The construction of the BV 246 avoided the usual aircraft techniques and strategic materials, so it could be mass-produced. It had clean aerodynamics, with high aspect ratio wings that made possible a glide ratio of 25:1.[1] The wings were made of magnesite cement, formed around a steel spar.[2] It had a cruciform tail in an early version and a double vertical tail mounted on the sides of a wide horizontal stabilizer in a later version. It had a length of 3.53 m (11.6 ft) and a wingspan of 6.4 m (21 ft). Its total weight was 730 kg (1,610 lb), of which 435 kg (959 lb) was the explosive warhead.
Initial tests revealed that the basic design was workable, but that the weapon was very inaccurate and because of this it was rejected. However, work was restarted in 1943, with 11 different versions being planned, due to its simple and inexpensive construction, and the new development contract was awarded to the Karlshagen test centre. A series of tests was begun to improve the weapon’s accuracy, with air drops performed by KG 101. Despite unpromising results, the Ministry of Aviation nevertheless issued the order to commence mass production on 12 December 1943. In February 1944 the contract was cancelled due to the success of the V-1 flying bomb.[3]
The weapon was revived a further time, in early 1945, as an early form of anti-radiation weapon, using the Radieschen passive seeker which was designed to home in on Allied radar transmitters; around 1,000 units were produced but never used operationally.[4]
SB 800 RS Kurt
Model errors:
Model errors:
The Radiator for the Ta 152 H-1 should be like the C-3
used to be explained here in detail: https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/426093-ta152h-and-late-doras-propeller-revision/
