Me want more TES. I need more uselessly heavy tanks that do nothing but look fucking amazing. +1 from me.
I always thought that the warrior Adats would have been a far better alternative to the Canadian Adats. Kinda makes more sense although wasn’t it a prototype for another country and that’s why we didn’t get it?
Also what’s with the warrior Thor? Is that the 76mm or somthing.
It would be a nice addition to the British tree that is still without a top tier IFV, and although this would not be top tier I think it would fit nicely in the gap between the Warrior in game and hopefully the Ajax that will come.
I can 100% see this being 9.0 or 9.3 if it came with the APFSDS-T, more armour, still fast and a better armament, would be similar to the CV9030 and PUMA.
The Warrior Thor, is a warrior that has been fitted with a Royal Ordnance 120mm mortar :P
Warrior ADATS is just a mock up turret on a mock up warrior, if I remember correct
I got basically all the variants from this website which list most if not all warrior prototypes and variants Warrior Armoured Fighting Vehicle - Think Defence
There are a lot more I could of included but chose not to since they were so similar, such as all of the different protection packages you seem to find, such as:
Just slat armour
A composite screen, but slat armour over it as well
The ASPRO backing plate only
The ASPRO backing plate, but with slat armour as well
The CSP with a backing plate
The CSP with Barracuda
The Stealth Desert Warrior
etc
To be honest I would rather that stuff isn’t included on other British AFV models the way it is on Challenger 2 - they just make the vehicle silhouette taller than it needs to be and wouldn’t really be fitted in the kind of combat scenarios depicted in War Thunder.
It was particular to the TES(H) (Theatre Entry Standard (Herrick)) fit because IEDs were the primary threat on Herrick (and the previous UOR fit for op Telic in Iraq with WRAP 2). But it isn’t integral to the nature of TES/OES for other theatres as we see the vehicles now in Northern Europe without the ECM but other TES enhancements like the Driver’s triplex, DVE thermal imager, environmental mitigation system, and modular protection system
Warriors in Sweden, May 2023
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CSP is broken
You lie :P
Yes the full TES(H) ECM fit would be redundant in a conventional warfare setting, adding weight and little benefit. From those pictures you can see that the ASPRO-H backing plate has been kept but the ERA blocks have been removed as there is;
A. No actual enemy threat.
B. A (low) risk posed by carrying live ERA.
Likewise the inert ERA blocks seen on ATDU’s Warrior are not used, as they have little training benefit versus simply not installing the blocks at all, and are probably not available in enough quantity to equip a whole unit.
Edit: Note that the new, full-size frontal applique armour is installed on those vehicles, rather than the half-size applique that was originally part of WRAP2.
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Yep here’s some
MTIP and TOTATIS
Xena
30mm Bushmaster
Low profile ADATS
RO 105mm LR
Recce 1&2
90mm
Oerlikon 25mm
25mm only desert warrior
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Yeah a lot of these I didnt add due to being so similar to ones already listed, and some of them I did list.
Ill make sure to add some more of these but some time later, this was just a quick list I did.
Eventually I will be organising them into different categories.
I don’t care how Rapier comes into the game, only that it does…
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This particular one is with Lockheed’s Warrior CSP technology demonstrator turret, which was simply modified from the RARDEN turret (as was the original plan for Lockheed’s WCSP bid). However, the prototype/production WCSP turret that would have gone in to service, was an all-new turret.
None the less, the vehicles with the production WCSP turret were also equipped to carry ERA with the same modular hull armour arrangement as the in-service Warrior TES/OES
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Ok I see what you mean, took me a while to understand. The name is still accurate, just not the CSP one might think of.
Do you think it would make sense to rename that as Warrior CSP Early? Trying to follow naming gaijin gives vehicles.
Enough with this “Early” and “Late” naming, it smacks of laziness and tells me they couldn’t be bothered to do proper research.
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Yeah exactly :D
Perhaps, but there were several “early” Lockheed WCSPs from different stages of design and prototyping.
That particular vehicle pictured with ERA (00 NC 36) was something of a mockup. It was converted by ABRO/DSG from the ex Verdi-2 demonstrator’s hull they had in storage to create the very first Lockheed WCSP demonstrator to take to DSEi and was just expected to sit on their stand. Parts of its roof were wooden initially, when it looked like this, with the very first turret design that had slightly longer but shallower “cheeks” to counterbalance the gun which was a 35mm Bushmaster at the time.
I’m not sure to what extent the VERDI-2 hull might have been rebuilt by the time they stuck that revised 40mm CTWS prototype turret on it. But there were a number of donor hulls available for the prototype stage by then, so it probably wasn’t necessary to use it other than for further static mockups like showing off the ERA fit.
41 KG 29 in motion with the same revised turret for the 40mm CTWS
The last demonstrator before pre-production vehicles were made with the production-type turret and modified hulls, had this turret (36 KG 48 was a FV511 command vehicle hull. Production WCSP have modifications for a large APU and revised cooling unit on the front-right side of the hull like Desert Warrior):
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So basically the warrior CSP could mount the ERA and it doesnt actually matter what picture I used :)
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Yeah. My point was just that if gaijin were to look at putting ERA on the Warrior CSP it would serve to look at the TES(H)/OES3 ERA installation since that’s how the armour was to be mounted on the production WCSP.
The ERA mounting on 00NC36 and WRAP2 Warriors differs a little by nature of being earlier designs, is all
Dunno about you but that “RO 105mm LR” thing looks like it could be quite entertaining.