How the heck is a BR rating of 7.3 justified for the UK medium tank FV4202?
Has same gun as Charioteer but…
Is way slower
Has much better turret armor
has weaker hull armor
one more crew
slower turret rotation but better gun depression
The pluses seem outweighed by the minuses and the full BR increase. The better turret is offset by the enemies with better ammo/penetration.
Why the heck does the hull not have similar armor to the centurion? It supposedly used parts from that tank to make the hybrid.
Tiger II (H) at 7.0 is a much better tank. I just don’t get the rating for the FV4202…
It’s a discount Cent Mk3. The stabilizer enables you to effectively do berm drills/shoot and scoot which the charioteer cannot as it needs to sit a long time (relatively) for its gun to stabilize.
I really love the stabilizer on my cent mk3. Hilly maps make it a joy to play.
The FV4202 is actually decent. Other than it’s weak spots (Which I am tempted to bush up if I ever play 7.7 again) it can bounce for days in a hull down or behind a husk of a tank (@7.7 or below).
The shatter is what makes it annoying but since it is the same gun that gets used till the 105/120s. You learn quickly on what can and cannot shatter the round, so you pick those spots. However since it shatters at the same rate as the Conq does, it might as well be considered a mini Conq.
I like the 20Lber as it is fairly reliable for myself, at least compared to the 17Lber. One shotting the Maus through the front is also fun. Spaced armour isn’t fun though (The only reason I use the Cent 5/1 over the FV vs AA/Light vehicles that flank).
By fix. You mean they have to buff it.
Right… Right?
T2 is faster (forward and reverse), has more crew, better armor overall, and arguably a better gun with much higher post pen damage.
Only thing FV4202 has on the Tiger 2 is higher pen ability with APDS which does a LOT less damage.
Really don’t see how the stabilizer helps all that much when the tank is ridiculously slow. It has same speed at a FERDINAND, and the Ferdinand can actually reverse at the same speed the FV4202 moves forward.
Other than the pen ability, what does it do better than the T2?
Acceleration is offset by the fact T2 has better top speed. For the first few seconds FV4202 will be ahead but the T2 WILL outpace it.
Crew : Tiger 2
Post-penetration damage: Tiger 2
Survivability of FV4202 is much less than that of Tiger 2, since it is quite vulnerable from all angles. Even SPAA (from almost any angle) will pose a risk to the FV4202.
FV4202 seems to have very specific conditions/environment where it’s advantages can come to bear - namely hills where it can go hull down to expose only the turret.
But - the cupola on top of the turret at 60mm is a glaring weak spot there.
Just don’t see the justification for rating this tank at 7.3/7.0
You drive up the hill enough to expose you turret barely long enough to fire - the stabilizer helps there massively - and immediately reverse off to hide your turret.
Hull down fighting isnt just sitting there with your turret exposed. It is driving up, taking a pot shot you have pre aimed at using a periscope or the commander binos and ditching the joint before the enemy can react to the muzzle flash.
There are some active combat footage showing it in practice (tank drives up, shoots and immediarely recerses and an atgm or some other finned projectile flies over its turret as it reverses).
And yes 5 km reverse does make it harder but the gun handling of the vehicles under and around 7.3 make it possible if you dont repeatedly do it in the same position (now there are only a few maps where you can reasonably reposition between shots, which is a bummer).
However the stabilizer is very powerful for such usage even with only a 5 km/h reverse speed.