FV201 P1 - the Forgotten Universal Tank

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FV201 P1

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Introduction

The FV201, initially designated the A45, was conceived in 1944 amid World War II as an alternative development to the A43 Black Prince infantry tank. The Black Prince had been developed as a heavily armored vehicle equipped with a 17-pounder gun but was offensively outdated before it was complete, largely due to its non-existent speed and maneuverability, as well as its antiquated armour profile. In response, British Army officials, notably Director Royal Armoured Corps Raymond Briggs, advocated for a new tank that would incorporate elements from the more advanced A41 Centurion, which was being developed concurrently. Briggs and Brigadier William Blagden, Deputy Director General Fighting Vehicles, were both proponents of a “universal tank” concept that would merge the roles of infantry and cruiser tanks into a single platform capable of supporting various combat roles across the battlefield.

From 1945 to 1946, work on the A45 progressed as a series of prototypes, which eventually led to the formal re-designation of the tank under the newly introduced “FV” numbering system, classifying it as FV201. This designation aligned with a broader reorganization of the British military vehicle hierarchy. Early prototypes featured Centurion-inspired designs, including sloped frontal armour and a Centurion-style turret modified to eventually accommodate a 20-pounder gun. The FV201’s chassis was unique, with a longer hull, eight steel roadwheels, 5 crew members, and proposals for variants wielding equipment such as flamethrowers and mine flails. Initial prototypes, like the FV201 P1, saw a variety of configurations and tests, including the P3, an amphibious version designed to float using a DD (Duplex Drive) flotation system. However, testing revealed that the FV201 was too wide to disembark from existing landing craft when outfitted for wading, impeding its suitability for amphibious operations.

Despite showing potential, the FV201 project faced setbacks, especially when a captured Soviet T-54 tank inspected during the 1956 Hungarian Uprising revealed that the FV201’s 20-pounder would be insufficient against newer Soviet armor. In light of this, British and American defense officials pivoted to developing heavier armaments, such as the 120mm L1 gun, and the FV201 project transitioned into the development of the FV214 Conqueror. The Conqueror retained key design elements of the FV201 but incorporated a larger turret, one less crew member, and other modifications. Although the FV201 itself did not reach active service, it significantly influenced British tank design, laying the groundwork for the Conqueror and serving as a transitional model between early post-war tanks and the main battle tank designs that followed.

This suggestion will focus on the FV201 ‘P1’, the first of the numbered prototypes, fitted with a Centurion Mk 2 turret and used for general testing. The final fate of FV201 P1 is unknown, but it was likely either scrapped or blasted apart on the range.

Specifications

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FV201 Specs
FV201 P1 is generally considered to be armed with the 17pdr due to the distinctive shape of the muzzle brake, however it is also considered a possibility that it was armed with a very early version of the 20pdr which carried a very similar brake.

Images

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FV201 P1 2

FV201 P1 3

FV201 P1 4
FV201 P1 during mobility trials with additional turret ballast.

Sources

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FV201 Documentation, courtesy of Ed Francis

THE MISSING LINK

Universal Tank flamethrower proposal - The Tank Museum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWNKFNNDQHw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy6FDvuLoes

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And how does it differ from the Caernarvon presented in the game?

Man trust me you do not want to open that can of worms

Serious answer though, its a different hull, with a different armour profile, a 5th crew member with a hull machine gun in a cupola, different suspension, early version of the meteor engine, and a different armament, which most consider to be a 17pdr, but it could be a very early 20pdr.

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Curious about the timeline - if prototypes were built 45-46 why is the Hungarian T-54 of 1956 relevant??

I would have thought the tank was no longer relevant by then, and the concerns would be resolved with upgunning the Centurions

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Because the initial project was put on ice as it was intended to be a replacement for Churchill. It was carried on later to develop into the conqueror heavy tank and the stop gap Caernarvon before that.

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As already mentioned, the A45/FV201 development was very protracted.

Also, to be truthful, the T-54 crashing into the embassy in '56 is more of a symbolic turning point in British armour development. There are communications from a few years prior to this that show the need for greater firepower was recognised and development on the L7 105 had already begun.

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120mm was also well into various evolutions of development.

I’d probably rename this to A45 P1 to avoid confusion.

Then we could have something like:
Churchill VII → Churchill VII AVRE (165) around 6.0 → A45 (17-Pdr) around 6.7 → FV201 (20-Pdr) around 7.0 with no APDS or 7.3 with APDS → Caernarvon → Conqueror

If Gaijin want a premium they should use the DD FV201 variant.

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How is the armor scheme for FV201? Is it similar to A41 Centurion or is it thicker?

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Both of these come from Ed Francis.

Bear-in-mind that the latter is provisional. The former is more accurate. It’s armour is near identical to the Centurion Mk 2. Though the front plate is better angled. Also, ignore 20-Pdr as that was intended for production A45/FV201’s. It’s hotly debated whether the P1 has a 17-Pdr or 20-Pdr, as primary sources conflict. Though the 17-Pdr definitely fills a hole in-game.

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