Fox is still overpowered

Its in the main post

so it means that they are going to have to break all 30 mm lol

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Basically. I guess Fox, Falcon and Warrior are all about to be massively nerfed.

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just give it the L21A1 APFSDS then hehe

Sounds like all small caliber APDS, not just 30mm.

Massively might be a bit of an exaggeration. It depends on how much of a reduction in pen we see. If its still around 100mm at point blank then it’s not a huge deal.

More over if it’s affecting all small caliber APDS like they indicated there’s a decent chance the it will get cancelled entirely either because the rammifications are too wide spread or due to sheer pushback from the community at large once the full implications are known.

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fox with 70 mm of penetration still out performing the BTR 80
still think that they did the recalculation then they got more penetration out of it

Tbf if they give it less flat pen but more spalling i’ll actually be more pleased, as long as i can 1 shot things while side on then i’ll still be happy.

Also this goes back to one of my earlier points, they physically can’t nerf the fox because of how well it’s been modelled, if they nerf the pen then literally every other 30mm APDS round must get nerfed alongside it, Including your precious BTR

So are gaijin going to change (and presumably) nerf all low caliber APDS?

If so, this is such an unneeded change. Just keep them as they are now and if they are overperforming move them up in BR, all this will do is make IFVs really frustrating to play.

Keep in mind that this will also nerf stuff like the BTR, BMP, Bradley etc… which already struggle to kill tanks with their autocannons

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1 guy complaining, about 20 guys trying to explain why that 1 guy is wrong

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including this, which was pretty wild

Yeah, realised that during typing, point still stands tho towards that lost individual

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Yep, though he also has a thread where he wanted the Su-24 to get 6x R-73s and remain at 11.3 because A-10C was 11.3 with 4x Aim-9M and he reckons 2x R-77s on the Su-39 would be perfectly balanced at 12.0.

So…

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Right…

Says all i need to know lmao

that would be funny, but I don’t see it happening.

My Kd in the fox says your wrong… so sure if you want to keep saying incorrect things, go ahead.

Go ahead and ask people in chat in games, 98% of people say they despise the fox immensely.

Ah I am always to blame eh? I have marked profanity, and the like that do not correspond to this thread

Because that’s called balanced? The A-10C broke a whole BR range. Why do you deny facts?

@xxBLUxx

My 3 cents is i’m wondering how the APDS round is .3 kgs with 1100 m/s velocity when all the other 30mm APDS rounds are like .2 kgs with 1400. Is it just a really big APDS round?

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I also had a thought on it, why not just give the Fox the battlefield radar set, move it to 9.X somewhere, EZ clap.

UK lacks a high tier scout with thermal systems.
Gaijin have given battlefield radar to other ground vehicles.

Makes the fox a more balanced system overall.

Replace it on the low end with CVRTs and Saladins.

Rather have the Fox 25 with the Sharpshooter turret, thermals and 25mm APFSDS be up there. Battlefield radar would be more fit to pull the Fox up to 8.3 or 8.7. Especially since it’s not an advanced MMW system like the Khrizantema, it would require a degree of research to understand and skill to use. Saladin and CVRT with the HESH lobbing gun will be literally impossible to balance, due to how bad HESH is, especially at low explosive mass.