Is the Fox over powered?
- Yes
- No, it is fine as it is
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Lmao starting a vote won’t do much. As 90% of people in here are Brit mains, or in the case of the few US mains who flocked here to defend the fox. Since the US kids don’t realize their vehicle is the best bs the fox typically
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OR maybe just maybe have you thought that it might possibly be because the fox isn’t overpowered?
Not sure what gives me such an outlandish idea
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Imma just point out…
I would also then like to point out (Yes I know we were talking about XM800T). The record for fastest nuke is a…
68mm pen gun. @550 RPM. (@8.3)
BTR 80 is a 82mm Pen @330 RPM (@7.3)
I would also like to point to the video’s that were recorded and… OH LOOK BTR kills vehicle faster than the Fox does, and does not need to stop. Almost as if Shatter and aiming matter, thus faster shooting means a vehicle dies faster. I am almost willing to bet that Ping has a large part to play with shatter from the few tests that I have done (not scientific).
Side note struggled to shoot the weak points with both vehicles soo… Faster firerate also wins there as well as even a single bullet can screw a crew member over and keep you alive. Miss with a slower weapon… You are dead.
The Fox really only has size as its major advantage, gun helps, but not as much as any other autocannon could be in it’s place. And if I mention speed… There are other vehicles that are about as fast and more stable (thus can shoot) whilst moving, and quieter vehicles.
So. If you do not get the drop on an enemy… You are fked. You miss crit spots or they shatter. You are fked.
TL;DR: Why is the record not a Fox and instead a ZA?
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Guess where we all know where RARDEN’s performance is going with the recalculation
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God that video makes me cry/laugh every time
You sure you wanna be saying that…
Completely unrelated, (rhetorical) why do you keep using the BTR as a comparison metric?
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Question…
I regularly see the Wiesel used much like the fox is described. It seems to perform like the fox is described. It’s also impervious to 7.7mm coax.
It is 7.3 and has reduced spawn cost as an SPAA.
Why is nobody complaining about that thing.
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It’s German. And from 1990. Verboten to complain about German vehicles. Germany suffers, don’t you know?
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I despise it. Its existence seemed to be laser focused on shooting out my barrel when I was trying to spade my cent mk3 lol (no parts).
People used to, then they got over it and realised “oh, i can just sneeze at it” and players generally adapted to accepting their existance and just… learning to watch out for them (for the most part).
And ofc, teamwork makes the dream work.
Though for RARDEN, wasnt it selected to be the medium/light anti armour to “beef up” recon units which were filled with L5/23 76mm HESH throwers? IE selected for having a better pen? (with heavy being swingfire units)
Hopefully it means we will see a max drop to like, 90mm, not ideal, but still, otherwise, generally speaking its going to start to drop to being below the BESH capabilities of around 80mm.
That’s just 95% of German anything, if they can’t lolpen your tank without effort they’ll shoot your barrel out. Kinda the same for the USA, especially with their damned M4 Jumbo.
I could say the same about the IS-6 which is now at 7.7
Those videos were mainly a stability test, not really me trying to kills things. Just an FYI
You tell me why the record is the way it is, I’d chalk it up to luck but I’m sure you’ll tell me I’m wrong.
With a slower fire rate, and less stock pen, I had a higher kd in the fox than I did with my btr. Explain that?
Fox has pen, speed, turret traverse, reverse, can shoot backwards, and is smaller and harder to kill than the BTR.
As for stability, my driving tests showed the fox to almost act as if it was stabilized, even with a low level non-expert crew.
It’s the most similar cannon, and yes, vs the fox, the USA tanks are the hardest to typically kill due to volumetric or angled side armor.
Hi, Japan main here. The fox is just fine, I’ve bonked a good few in my Type 99, Type 87 RCVP, and Patton.
If you’re lacking peripheral awareness entirely, it might seem OP.
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The type 99 with 15kg he, type 87 is an aa that is stabilized no? Or are you referring to the light tank? Because all those tanks you mentioned (other than Type 99) are the perfect counter for the fox? It’s a wonder you don’t have a problem, BUT many many other tanks do not have the combined necessary characteristics to combat the fox effectively.
Type 99 at 7.3 has paper armor that can be penned by even 50cal and slow turret traverse, Type 87 (P) is a 7.7 unarmored armored car that’s huge as a house with the same 20mm you get with the SUB-I-II at 5.3, and M47 is just a typical MBT for its tier.
One of the above is a glass cannon, the other is an autocannon IFV, and the third is the most common vehicle type for that BR. All three aren’t perfect counters, but most vehicles should be good as long as you keep an eye out.
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I’m so happy that the btr turret traverse at max is 30 degrees per sec, so all that fire rate doesn’t account for much, especially if the Leo gassed it.
For context, no I didn’t get a nuke solely in the BTR before you say anything.
Most of my kills came from the ZSU & Aubl 74 HVG.
I think I got 2~3 in the btr on tanks that had absolutely no idea I was there since the sounds of war made it impossible to hear me. Little did I know that a Strv 104 can only be penned in the lower side hull by the btr
