You can hear the Fox just by the fact that the water boiler is ready for tea.
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Sometimes you can just tell when someone is a German Main, even if they play a different nation.
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If this is a valid solution to say fox bad and should go up, can I point to all of the America and Russian trees?
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The last shot
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Honestly I thought I was dead after the first shot. To add context the first shot was APHE, I run 3 mags of APHE before the rest in APDS to deal with early game Rat fights against other light tanks. I’d already selected APDS before the clip started since I heard him coming but I couldn’t fire to effect the reload switch without alerting him. There was a slim chance of the APHE penning the side there but if he had just turned a little further and fired he’d have had me before I could start pumping APDS in.
I played the fox a little bit, so far KDR isn’t great as it is currently only at 1.7, had one nuke but didn’t manage to drop it, I think 100% APDS is no issue a lot of time when I hit the enemy light tank they just got KO’d in one-hit, the post pen is often lethal enough that they can’t fire back for a short time, only issues is the gun accuracy is wack lol
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This is true if you have a chance to aim but in my experience early game rat fights, especially against XM800Ts, are on the move. Since the Fox doesn’t have a stabilizer I need whatever hits I can land to pack as much punch as possible.
I agree with you
Dying to something with an auto canon can be really annoying
But if you play in spots where it’s harder for you to be flanked you can minimise this issue as for it to get close enough to kill you, you will hear it or see it with prescribed glasses
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No i wont, as i never look back, my mindset is only forward, dont care about others around you, look ahead!
The issue isn’t the fox
It’s the lack of situational awareness from most people who think mostly about mbts and in front of them, this isn’t the Napoleonic wars
I’ve brought this up to 11.7 and done just as well simply because no one looks around them
A 10.3 game yesterday I got 7 kills just because I decided to go around the enemy team in a flank I’ve done in leopard 2s before
Certainly helps I’m in the equivalent of a small family car but several times I went straight through an open field where the enemy team should’ve been looking
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Okay apparently this is the Napoleonic wars
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Always has been
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On paper and in actual gameplay are two different things. Surely you’re not stranger to that fact.
Unlikely, yes, as Gaijin loves to drag their feet on decompression. It’s like pulling teeth with tweezers meant for your eyebrows when it comes to Gaijin decompressing BRs.
Easily penned in theory, in gameplay it’s a 50/50 chance whether you pen and fail. As for the rest, yes they are important, but the mobility matters less in a CQC environment where you don’t have to weakpoint hunt while your contemporaries do, meaning the TURMS really has it’s work cut out for it.
Again, on paper and in gameplay are two different things. If only that supposed 5mm KE protection for the ERA was legitimate we wouldn’t need to have the discussion on it. As for tandems, which ones? The Tow-2B that was nerfed into oblivion? The Bill, which itself is hit or miss? There’s Spikes also, but those still need refinement.
Mobility means less and less these days with Gaijin butchering maps and turning them into nothing but face-off affairs. Before that, sure NATO vehicles really profited off of it on the large maps via flanking, but in a CQC environment as I’ve already mentioned it means a lot less as NATO has to weakpoint hunt while Russia gets to simply point and click - And in a CQC engagement where speed and getting off a penetrating shot first determines who wins 9 out of 10 times, NATO often loses out.
BMP-2M can be .50’d from the side, yes. Frontally, not exactly, especially not to death before it ATGMs you or autocannons you.to death. The 2S38 is basically impervious to .50 so that is completely invalid as a tactic.
You haven’t showed any facts, though. Feel free to keep trying, though, but your bias won’t help you in showing actual facts and not just what you think are facts.
Also, I’m not screaming or throwing a fit for or against the Fox. I didn’t care that the Fox was at 7.0 - It wasn’t a concern then and it’s not even one now at 7.7 - The vehicle is acceptable at the BR. The only one pitching a fit about it is you and your ilk because apparently paying attention to at least a 180° area in front of you is too difficult. That’s not my problem - That’s yours.
That’s your skill issue, not mine.
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I mean if it’s coasting it’s quiet enough. But the moment you apply even a bit of power IT’S LOUD ENOUGH YOU CAN HEAR IT FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP
line firing making a come back?
Hey, bring out the Sh*tbarn, the old girl might have a purpose now
Which is hugely ironic, given off the top of my head the RARDEN is meant to be hilariously accurate
But how do you know he’s there already?
Are you running an esp?
@Jadenbetter
Depends, maus can survive a Fox attack.
@Morvran
You can quite literally cover the whole fox in bushes. Which does kinda defeat the purpose of hauling, but usually people don’t notice, but in 20 secs I’ve been able to get right outside of the Enemy spawn, sit with my engine still running and kill plenty of people.
The fox seemingly is only loud within 50 meters if I’m being honest, unless someone on pc is using a sound mod to hear me over gun fire, machine gun fire, arty, planes, engines… it’s actually not that easy to hear a fox sounds of war are loud.
This I agree with.
Tbf you were sitting there engine off, probably for at least 30 secs.
TL;DR + USA suffers etc etc,
No, the USA tree is pretty good, look at the top MBT stats compared to one another, if yah know how to play an abrams, is actually really good… just be hull down, not hard. And that fictional 5.0 sec reload carries.
Also, yes the BMP-2M can be frontally killed by a .50 cal.
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Up close they aren’t quiet, but the sound blends in very well at longer distances.
@Fluffy_Bucketles It shouldn’t go up, and I don’t think it should. I just hate that it (and similar tanks) are better than the light vehicles I play in a 1v1 situation, despite the other ones being better overall.
@Jadenbetter My main issue is that it is faster than all the tanks I play, so I can’t utilize the spots effectively. I often spot it, but I can’t counter it when it inevitably rushes me. Also, I already wear glasses.
@GNDM_Panzer I find it much easier to kill Turms with M735 than I do Leopard 2A4s. In a cqc enviroment, would you rather have a tank with great mobility and gun handling, or one with easily exploitable weakspots and worse gun handling?
I don’t even know what that is