304g is for 3UBR8 full projectile, including sabot and cup.
300g for L14 is also for full projectile, including sabot and cup.
Neither of these rounds are HVAP or AP, therefore the total mass of the projectile including sabot and cup is not relevant to performance, except for at the muzzle, where a lighter sabot and a heavier core will be superior at the same velocity. Increase velocity for the lighter L14 and the performance gap increases.
9.3
HAHAHA
It would be 8.3. Max. it would likely have less MILANs (probably only 2) than the Warrior (and probably MILAN 1s and not 2s) and still likely no TVD, Stabiliser or LRF like the Warrior has.
If the Fox with MILANs is 9.3. Then the BMP-2 should be at least 10.0 On par with the Desert Warrior
Shouldn’t be a gap as massive as 28mm, perhaps 12-18mm.
If we go by your metric, the FOX already does higher damage then the 2a72, but if we add in what you say, then the 3UBR8 is lighter, and should lose less velocity than the L14. While, again according to your metric, if the barrel length, and projectile case is only marginally longer, this should mean, right out the gates, the 3UBR8 round should have 104 pen instead no?
They both have a tungsten alloy penetrator.
Ah, I thought that fox had a stab.
Well, it would more than likely be an 8.3 / 8.7 then, problem is, what do you do with the warrior then?
Leave it put?
You trade the mobility of the fox for TVD and LRF on the Warrior.
Lighter projectile will lose more velocity over distance due to inertia. 3UBR8 is slower, lighter and has overall less total energy than L14, yet in game it retains penetration over distance better.
L14 should retain velocity better, and still have higher penetration at the muzzle.
This is sounding like you want a BTR buff and not a Fox nerf.
So your KDR in your Fox is 50% more or higher than all other autocannon cars/APCs you used; such as the BTR-80A, RCVs, etc?
I can’t fact-check your claims as I’m not in WT at this time of night, but I’m pretty sure @Morvran or some other can fact-check your claims.
Honestly. We are probably at the point we need a Dev or Dev advice (even other small cal)
We are just going back and forth. Knowing the Fox’s gun is under performing to IRL.
The situation of all light tanks/AA in the 7.0-9.0 area need to be spoken about in a Dev post or something, that way folks can calm down across all small caliber around there.
That’s not my fox stat, I don’t have the fox yet, I’m one vehicle away from it.
Bro, you’re hella lucky in that shot ngl. And very skilled
Play the Fox and stay happy
Seal clubbing is quite boring, if I enjoyed it, I’d play my KW-IC (the German KV-1), or the T14 for America.
Don’t get me wrong, I like I good flank & spank tank, but if it can absolutely wreck an entire enemy team at the start of the match, what was the point in playing that match to begin with? It’s a predetermined loss at that point, which leaves to more people 1 life leaving.
So then should the BMP 2 go back to 8.3? You don’t have the mobility, you get a smaller main gun but it’s stabilized, and I’m pretty sure you get the same atgm.
They leave because of these factors:
Not how that works, but okay.
Well, no. If the fox doesn’t get nerfed, then the BTR should be buffed. As I’ve said “THEY ARE EXTREMELY SIMILAR GUNS” yes, the fox has a minimally bigger powder charge I’m sure (depending on how full they pack the case, Russians usually pack the case super full). And barrel length is, less than 1/3 of a meter longer than the BTR, but I think they’re accounting for the muzzle brake or flash hider on the fox as apart of the barrel.
I generally do way better in full uptiers for some reason, and in full downtiers I swear I’m out of the match asap, especially when little things like a fox can hide in a corner of a building on a city map, after I’ve driven for 45secs, then he’ll kill my driver / engine / gunner, or straight up kill me in one hit.
Leaving early for the “grind” doesn’t make sense, you get better rewards the longer your in no?
Spading requires kills, caps, assists, etc… so they should stay in the game longer. They should have backups.
If the Fox is truly OP, you’ll do better in it than all your other armored cars with autocannons.
If not, you won’t.
It’s how I can say Jagdpanzer IV is OP; if anyone fact-checks me they’ll see my performance in it is above and beyond all other casemates I’ve played.
APDS stands for Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot.
It is not a bullet
Sigh… it is a bullet, scaled up. It doesn’t change no matter what kind of bullet. A battleship fires a “shell” which is a bullet no?
It uses powder charges / etc to fire them, just like a bullet…
For example, shotguns shells have various types, one being Flechette, which can be a bunch of little darts, or a bunch of little APFSDS like projectiles, but it’s not called a cannon :)
Nearly 500 posts debating if the Fox is OP when the real problem is German/Russian SPAAs with APDS and APHE rounds they never actually used IRL.
