FOX-3 stock grind

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i think we should make every rank-8 planes that have fox-3s should be made a rank 1 mod as its extremely difficult for some 14.0s and 13.7s to stock grind, especially considering sometimes your two fox3 missiles overlap on pylons with upgrades and can be very irritating. not to mention everyone your fighting has 10X your load out of fox-3s. This is a Game and is supposed to be fun but top tier stock grinding is not that.

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feel free to disscuss below

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Really, the stock missiles should be 4 ARH and 2 IR for 14.0. Also notably, like the F-18s we got, the stock missiles should be on the outermost and innermost pylons, specifically on any pylons no other ordinance can go on, and then to the innermost. Su-30SM, for example, would have the stock R-77-1s underneath the inlets, and so would the Flankers. This way, it is a lot less likely for the stock missiles to overlap other A2A ordinance, allowing for more fleshed out loads earlier on

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I think some stock grinds need an overhaul. For example

Tornado F3 Late you start with 2x Aim-9Ls (yes its one of very very few that doesnt get IRCCM stock) + 2x Aim-120B

You then unlock 4x Aim-9L then 4x Aim-9M at Tier 2
4x Skyflash SuperTEMPs at Tier 3
4x Aim-120B at Tier 4

The problem, there is extremely limited value in replacing the 2x Aim-120Bs with the 4x Skyflash SuperTEMPS. So its a dead mod you have to grind purely for the purposes of a stock grind.

Given the fact we already have to do the full stock grind already in the F3. I would propose in the F3 Late just having the Skyflash SuperTEMPs as an alternative stock loadout alongside the 2x Aim-9L (which need to be replaced with Aim-9M) and 2x Aim-120B. Then move the Aim-120B mod to Tier 3.

This would radically improve the stock grind both by removing a useless mod and lowering the tier needed to get the full loadout. But doesnt undermine Gaijins bottom line too much (Mods are 100% a revenue stream and serve no purpose other than that, so if we want any real changes, they need to be moderate)

So to sum up.

  • IRCCM missiles stock past 13.0 no matter what (where possible).
  • Lower the necessary tier for additonal/full ARH missiles to Tier 3
  • eliminate useless mods such as SARH on ARH carriers (where possible, only exception I would apply is to the “heavy” carriers like the Su-27, Su-30 and F-18 where they could take a large number of SARH stock alongside a limited number of ARH).

(also gunna throw in the mandatory “stock chaff” in here as well)