Looks like the F-4F ICE is in fact dead on arrival and Germany is the biggest loser this patch.
All nations will have 1990’s and beyond modernized jets with fox 3’s.
Germany? An F-4F…
They still have the MiG 29G I think that thing will get R77. I might be wrong tho.
That’d help with the FM gap sure, avionics would still be vastly inferior to literally everyone else though, and it wouldn’t be real. Afaik the 29G definitely could fire R-77.
As far as i know it didnt recieved radar upgrade so it shouldnt be able to fire R-77.
Where’s my Typhoon and Rafale, Gaijin?
You’re adding their equivalents…
Awesome, looking forward to this!
Just remember to reduce the amount of players on each team…
To be fair, you did mention that the Devs were aware of this in the last CM blog, but just making sure :D
You joking right
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huh? are they? where did they say that?
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F-15C MSIP and Su-27SM1 in the screenshots. Both superior to the Rafale M F1 and equivalent to Tranche 1 Tiffy sans ASRAAM/IRIS-T.
oh, i cant really tell the difference of models from images alone :P
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What, how are they superior?
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Or hell, even the DA.1 / DA.2 Eurofighters with RB.199 engines if the flight performance with EJ200 is this scary
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First speed, acceleration, climb rate, and cannon armament.
But the big thing is the missiles. The F1 can carry 6x MICA-EM or 4x and 2x Magic 2. The F-15 can carry 8x AIM-120B or 4x and 4x AIM-9M. The Su-27 can carry 6x R-77 and 4x R-73. Additionally, while the MICA has great manueverability it is much shorter range than the R-77 or AIM-120. So the Rafale is pretty handily outperformed in BVR and IR WVR. I’d say the SU-27SM and F-15 MSIP are 13.3 while the Rafale M F1 is 13.0 material.
The MSIP and SM introduced ARH, so it’s not really complicated. There are small details that others have pointed out that confirm the models as well.
well that might be the case. but for someone not as knowledgeable in the specific subject it isn’t as clear. so technically they have not yet announced it but have teased it in images for those who know :)
Multipathing is quite generous towards many missiles, which couldn’t be used at all below a few hundred meters.
does this mean theyre gonna reduce multipathing on fox threes considering they said notching would be the ONLY way to defeat them up close
i sure hope they dont.
Go ahead, notch a MICA from 0.7km
You’re smoking something.
Mirage 2000-5F is what’s comparable to Su-27SM.
Mirage 2000-5F will have a better IR and Radar missile (MICA EM and Magic 2), better dogfighting performance, and better radar while Su-27SM has more missiles. Mirage 2000-5F are also expected to get much more countermeasures.
Magic 2s are expected to be buffed again.
And if that’s true, there goes another F-15 without HMD, while the remaining 95% of rest of top tier has that asset for granted.
i’m starting to guess how it will perform even considering AMRAAM factor.