For what reason is the Churchill MK1 still 3.3?

I do not see it.

The late Valentines do the same job, way better.

I mean you have this thing at the same BR as the PZIVF2 and such, with guns that just entirely negate it.

And its not like the 2 Pounder is a super weapon. Honestly i could MAYBE see 3.3 if you gave it a Little John adapter, BUT without that? its just a 2.7-3.0 heavy at most.

It has armor, and firerate. Combining with the 40 mm firerate and decent ammunition option for the cannon with the 76 mm smoke screen shells you can reduce the distance easily by playing as a brawler.

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armor that Anything can pen, and a pop gun that has to pick enemy apart and hates hitting angles.

Along with pretty bad mobiliy… Again why is it 3.3?

Let’s say everything (literally) from battle rating +3.7 can pierce Churchill Is’ armor, how about the battle rating -3.3 vehicles? As I said—it’s a brawler, the main gun is surely weaker compared to most of other vehicles, you have the 76 mm cannon that can be loaded with smoke screen shells, use that to enclose distance and use the frontal arc armor. This question was already answered, at least detailed explained by @Ansaraina in this post about this subject.

Yeah totally should be 3.3, totally.

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It’s worse actually

Out reloads easily in average brawls

Unlucky or should’ve gunner sniped

They use it in an AB lineup, which highlights enemies and weakspots. It’s also far more mobile there and 3.0 as well.


Look at this and tell me that’s fine. This is a 3.0 vehicle by the way.


Also a 3.0 vehicle, and I don’t even have the track armour installed.


Finally an actual 3.3 vehicle.


It’s even got a lower KD ratio than the Mk VII, which everyone famously says has a bad gun. The positive winrate is carried by a great 3.3 line up.

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its slightly better than the B1 Ter at 2.7, but not significantly so

Similar armour, Better Turret gun, Significantly worse hull gun, Probably about equal mobility

the Churchill I overall is slightly better than the B1 i’d say, but it is certainly not 0.7 better, Churchill I could be 3.0 just fine,

probably don’t send it to 2.7 because vehicles struggle with the Matilda II enough already, let alone a full bloody churchill

It’s just in an odd spot because the armour is good, but the 2pr is inarguably obsolete at that BR when you can’t flank like the Sentinel and Ram

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Speaking of the Little John, Why do we not have a SINGLE tank equipped with it in game?

The M22s the british used in Combat were fitted with them even. same for the Tetrarch’s that got glider dropped across the Rhine.

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because you’ll go from firing ok spall Solid shot / uncapped APHE

To firing APCR (actually APCNR, but in game its APCR)

I’d pick solid shot over APCR any day

The M22s the British used

And speaking of that, Why isn’t there a premium British M22? Id love a little British M22 to run around in.

Hell sell it in a low tier Pack, have a Tetrarch with the option to fit the Little John, and a British M22. As a little glider tank pack thats just cheap and fun.

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Hell throw the 6 pounder Alecto in there too.
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It’s buoyed by the APCBC ammunition which it historically would not have had access to, but yeah 3.3 is very tough for the Churchill I. Definitely one to remember for the next BR changes.

Because British players are good at the game. Simple as. If your players are good, you get punished. If your players are bad, you get rewarded. It’s why so many German vehicles are hilariously undertiered, and can easily stomp your team, meanwhile British, French, Italian, and Japanese players get constantly nerfed or overtiered (looking at you recent update that threw Spitfires into jet BRs, Zeroes and other Japanese planes up higher, etc.).

But hey, one German player shot at a Churchill and didn’t insta-elim it, so that means the Churchill is OP and needs to be 3.7!

I agree 3.3 is too high. 2.7 is too low because of the Matilda. 3.0 is good enough for it.

By this logic, i should go post a pic of a t72 getting popped by the m55 and say that the t72 needs to be way lower than 9.3.

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LOL Tigris and Tiger 2 sla. to 4.0 then…


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