I have been around since 2014 too, which means i have seen gaijin make the same mistakes again and again. Its why its hillarious that they get a massive backlash, backtrack like crazy, and the momment they think the pressures off default to their old selves like nothing happened. It the definition of insanity, as they keep doing the same things and then get confused why they get the same results.
Their statistic method has been proven to be useless and easily skewed long ago, as it creates both feedback loops, and can easily be tilted, something me and a friend proved with teh chinese mig-9s back in the day, where they ended up having a sl repair cost something like 3 times higher than the identical ones in the russian tree.
There was no pushback on this data at the time. Pandemic meant more players were playing, not that more new players were involved. It is far too much an assumption that this is down to new players. People no longer start and stick to AB, I notice the majority in very low to medium BRs are very new players in GRB (much more mixed in ARB). The players and game have changed.
This test (not perfect by any means) took in all data, Thunderskill does not and like the forum is more about who is more vocally involved.
It should be clear that Gaijin know where most people play, and hence AB was chosen. Or else they would have chosen RB.
Looking at some of the raw data you aren’t telling me all new players rushed to ARB? (27332). It is safe to say the variance is correct, and then the outcome of Devs actually stating AB is more popular and then acting upon that. So yes, 11076 GRB compared to 39121 in GAB.
Of course I think this is all well intended (as much as most business are), just this time they are telling us rather than just doing it. They stopped telling us due to not everyone being happy all the time.
RB is just noisier. If this comes across as short or I misunderstood I have had a migraine the last 8 hours.
Again, an old test performed by one member, but it makes sense (it is pegi-13 after all, AB is much simpler on the whole) and is confirmed by what they have just explained themselves.
Yup, precisely my point. I just hope that they will reconsider. This is the exact attitude which necessitated "The Road Map"™️ in the first place. Be better Gaijin.
Another from the RU forum.
But they moved the T-44-100, AML-90, AMX-50 and Lorraine 40 to rank V which sits at 7.0 in arcade alongside the other 7.0s already there.
So once again they have these new rules that they pick and choose what to apply to while giving nonsense justification thats countered by the other changes in this very list.
Yes but that still doesn’t consider that before these changes, the foldering etc. was based on vehicles themselves and not on their battle ratings. For example, the Fw 190Ds in AB are 5.0 (D-9) and 6.0 (D-10), under the new system are no longer foldered, despite being the exact same plane other than a minor armament change.
and because the doras are not very good in arcade, well that the later dora is going to inevitably go lower in br as people are forced to play it in order to progress. meaning in about a year or so the unfoldering of them will be pointless, as they will again be the same br XD
They’re working on the night battle opt-in feature. Be patient.
And foldering makes your life easier, why are you so angry at good things?
They’re literally doing what the community asked them to do.
You sound like you’re baitng.
@Lugenpresse
My suggestion on the old forum had marines Abrams go after M60s.
The other option was M1A1s or leave as is.
It’s a good thing as it declutters the primary MBT line and balances it out.
Good lord how many people are in here complaining about their lives getting easier?
'cause that’s not what we asked for; we asked for easier/less grind (for which foldering helps) not for nonsensical Tech-tree rearrangement with:
vehicles foldered with others, usually very different, that make no sense outside of an arbitrary and unreliable/inconsistent metric (Battle Ratings);
we already have perfectly fine folders already (like, for example, F6F, F8F, A6M5s…) that for whatever reason get taken apart;
Rank III vehicles being yeeted into Rank II becoming for many players unusable for events (especially when it comes to Air RB players) for again practically no reason;
some later vehicle variants coming before earlier ones like with P-51C and the P-51 (i don’t remember others, probably some 190s)
I can’t think of any other points to add as of right now, if any of you has some to add, feel free; also here i’ve only mentioned Air, as it’s the only one i play, but other players that also play ground have already voiced their concerns
Where things are foldered does not matter, to be brutally honest.
Getting heated over positions of tech tree vehicles inside a complex war games simulator does not help yourself or others.
I get it, you & I will have to re-learn positions of vehicles.
This won’t negatively impact our gameplay nor progression.
Especially when the vehicles are still aligned with their genres: Medium tanks, carrier aircraft, air force aircraft, bombers, etc.
Well well, a rare specie - The Forum Player, that has only a month of play and 44% winrate, asking to bring back the WORST DAYTIME CONDITION ever 🥵.
But already 💩 5+ replies on this topic with 0 likes. WT community underrates your contribution, fortunately 🧐.
Dude… nation bias isn’t a thing in War Thunder.
Ground RB always included planes, cause that’s realistic in a war game.
WT doesn’t have fake vehicles coming.
