Fixing of Britain ,Israel ,and USA

thats what im saying uk needs a buff , but the challengers are better in there armor yet there armor isnt that good in game! Also i think adding 15-25km range sams for all nations will help the top tier spaa for U.S a bit, but the adats has 8 missiles without reload compared to the flarangrad, can be used for anti tank duties with its gun and missiles, adats has a gun for short range while flarangrad has none.

I just thinking nations spaa should all be buffed except russia to help with CAS and whats upcoming for cas(120km missiles, spam glide bombs, etc)

UK ADATS does not have a gun. Its missiles can be used vs tanks, but its just not good for that, they arent good enough to relaibly use it as an ATGM truck. Its also got a massive profile that leaves you exposed.

But yes, all nations need a major buff to their SAMs

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i thought u were talking about the american one lol. I just think if gajin wants to make CAS even more broken like they are rn, they should at least buff every single nations capability in there SAMS to match russia’s or make all spaa better but i think 15-25km or even 30km max is already perfectly fair. And most nations have the capabilities to match pansir

all of them except russia, unless you want to go over the 25km range then yes

It is one thing to be “Fair”, it is another to make SPAA able to delete instantly upon spawning… which is what you are asking for with those ranges.

If the only way to give all nations something better, is to jump them ahead then it would be unfair to leave the Soviets way behind, even though theyve been well ahead for the last 2 years. Especialyl as Gaijin is more likely to push everyone foward with the soviets and not instead of

even with pansir , spaa struggle to take out cas, and now with farther range arnaments coming, we can for sure assume that these aircraft can spawn missiles out before they enter that 15km-25km range i was talking abt

true, but even with the range im proposing, russia would be in that gap,and even then gajin can add the more modern pansir

You cant assume anything. Gaijin is still using the original closed beta testing maps from when tanks were first released… when the Panzer IV’s and T-34’s were the only real tanks you saw for weeks. Unless gaijin is gong to take the next 4 years to make maps ONLY for modern vehicles, then implement something with those kind of absurd ranges (even some Air EC maps barely stretch further than those distances)… you arent assumnig anything based on reality

I’ll 100% get on board with limiting how many premiums are on each team. I recently played a ussr 10.3 game. By the time i died and checked 9 people all 2s38s all died and left after one death. There was only a few of us left.

Spaas for usa and isreal are a problem. Isreal more so.

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Soviets need new SPAA as well, no exceptions mean no exceptions.

for what im proposing, the soviets fit the criteria, the pansir-s2 is 20-30km and makes it a bit better than what the criteria is, bringing back on of the og problems before. But the s2 isnt as op if comapired to the spaa im proposing so it can happen for sure

I think aiming for 20km is good. 30km you would need HARMs.

yeah , i think like ive said 15-25km is good, 15km would be better for better manuverability or fire and forget missiles and 20-25 is for longer ranges like spyder or pansir, i was also thinking, would mim-23 hawk be a good idea to add for this proposal

i just ried to create a poll regarding the introduction of 15-25km range spaa for other nations, hopefully it goes well and moderators approve it?

Give F-15 or Tornado respawn as AA. With SPAA SP costs

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Nobody told me we had a new spaa?? Guess I was distracted whilst grinding out Air

flarangrad has been there for a while, maybe i spelt it wrong lol, but it’s there

IMHO the hstv-L is pretty competitive if you use it for drive-bys :P though the abrams needs its overall armor fixed before the turret ring (its missing quite a bit of armor on the front)

the problem with hstv-L is that it cant compete with 2s38 which is 10.3 while hstvl is 11.7, and the hstvl is 11.7 which i feel is too high for it