Fix the Su-25k's Airframe

I’m going to suggest that the Su-25k’s air frame is not historical and extremely broken, discuss…

But it’s supposed to take hits.

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Looks like you shot it with AP.

So are many other aircraft, but few are resistant to the same degree as the Su-25s. I’ve seen Su-25s survive direct hits from Red Tops before or multiple Aim-9s or Stingers.

There is resistant to damage and there is the ability to soak many times the hits that any other aircraft can

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Its almost like they implemented its redundant flight controls but didn’t for every other aircraft that should have said systems.

Or just added a strength multiplier to the components lol.

Yep, its that damn Stalinium

That T-34 drivers port at it again.

I was using Air Target belts

Still. You seemed to only graze its tail and than put a few rounds into its left wing.
The Su-25 is a ground attack plane with survivability in mid and was designed to be tough. Su-25s can and have IRL been hit by SAMs and landed.
If you would have connected say 10 HE rounds to the center of mass of the aircraft and it still took no damage than I would question it.

I think the more pressing question to ask would be why can the A-10 not do the same, among many other aircraft. At least to the same degree I have seen Su-25s tank damage.

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I definitely hit it higher up on the fusalage than shown here, and i hit both wings and the vertical stabilizer. Surviving an airburst from a SAM is different than direct hits from 27mm he

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You can use hit analyzer to give us the exact locations.

Pretty much the only reliable way i’ve found for killing an Su-25 is to blow a wing off.

In ARB its a very difficult situation because they can see you coming and have very good low speed handling, but in ASB, I always sneak up behind them and aim really carefully.

Id have tried a 9L from that close and you could have also locked your radar on for EEGS, that might have helped with landing more shots. But its overall a far hard situation. I had one hell of a battle in an F3 once, on the tail of an Su-39 because I was limited to only my single 27mm MAUSER and it took hit after hit. I’ve also had many a Su-25 tanks bursts from the 30mm ADEN as well

Would love to but Gaijin’s system doesnt work. It doesn’t show any hits on an Su-25 that match even though I clearly hit it multiple times.

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Probably because they weren’t critical hits according to the broken damage model

Idk man all I know is that Gaijin seems to really pick and choose what vehicles they actually realistically model.
Observe the thickness of a CVRT frontal plate yet in game it can get penned by a 7mm AP.

So because the Su-25 and A-10 damage models are resilient that means they’re wrong to you?
I remember when I was pilot sniping Su-25s non-stop with F-5E.

it is way more reasonable than a while ago. now i dont see much of a problem.

they must have forgotten to do that for the A-10s

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There is a difference between surviving spalling from a missile (usually for the Su-25 manpads which are relatively small missiles (9kg explosive mass for AIM-9 against 3kg for Stinger) that will explode like a meter away from you compared to surviving the explosion of an ammunition with an explosive mass the size of a grenade exploding in contact if not inside your airframe… especially if there are multiple hits…

Also I think that the SU-25 wouldprobably not be able to tank hits from missiles bigger than manpads due to the difference of explosive masses but I am not sure if that has been seen in combat or not…

IRL stinger has a tendency to embed itself inside the airframe before detonating, so despite the “small warhead” it can deal significant damage. XFIM-92A (without warhead) would literally go and shoot down QF-106/QF-102 (it’s hard to tell in the grainy video) drones it was being tested against by slamming into them with sufficient kinetic energy to destroy the engine.

(About 3 minutes into the video they show the tests and mention how the missile is not fitted with warhead)