Fix The MiG-29M Flight Model

The MiG-29M needs to be reworked and here is why.

F-2A for example has an empty weight of 9,500kg while the F-16’s can vary from 7000kg to 9200kg.

Heavier does not mean worse. The F-2A is a much better in flight performance cause of the bigger wings etc. MiG-29M has bigger control surfaces. So how do you explain that?

F-2A has the F-16C engine. The MiG-29M has way more thrust, Bigger wings and elevators than its predecessor. The RD-33K thrust should cancel out the weight and the control surfaces should as well.

Heavier does not mean worse. Lighter does not mean better. Simple. Weight does not matter if its placed right and has the power it needs. The MiG-29M was supposed to be a modern 29 that kept the agility of the early fulcrums and the reputation it had and improve it.

Its 400kg heavier than the MiG-29 9-13.
2-3 TONNES more thrust.
Bigger:
Intakes
Wings
Controlsurfaces
Elevators

Specific:
9-12/13/19: 38 m² wing area
9-15: 42 m² wing area
Larger leading-edge root extensions (LERX) for better lift at high angles of attack.
LERX blending further into the wing
Broader wing platform
Different flap layout

As of ingame it does not look to feature the bigger wings which we have seen you guys not like to do.
Example: Gripen E.

That should make it better than the 9-12 in flight performance in a few degrees.
Do not try and pull the weight is worse card cause that has nothing to with anything.

There is no reason to it having the 9-19 Flight model especially this late in the dev server.

Its a bad move from the developers to hate this one aircraft.

Put the MiG-29 back on its feet and give it the real flight model.
Not the: Close enough thing you guys have been pulling.

People would invest in the MiG-29 and profit will be earned if you do the job correctly.

MiG-29M is the modern MiG-29 that fixed the issues with the old one.
Speed
Bleeding
Lift
And Control
Weaponary

This is not acceptable on any table or terms.
This will benefit both the game and player.
Listen this time and do it right.
Focus on the wings not the other stuff.

ussr

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If you have any sources that can prove that the in-game version is modeled incorrectly then you can bug report it here (just search a bit first so that you don’t report something that is already reported and known about): (Gaijin.net // Issues)

A guide on how to report bugs can be found here: ([Navigation] Technical Knowledge Base | War Thunder Wiki)

For changes like the ones you describe there are some requirements for sources:

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mig-29m 9.15 doesn’t get bigger wings though. That comes with mig-29m 9.41 from ~2005

@Balta779517-live is that right or nah, I’m not as well versed on fulcrums as I am on the flankers

9.15 doesn’t get the big flaps

Does this game even calculates lift from the airframe itself? Or only wings?

Only wings. No vortex. Nothing

based. no wonder that airframes with this configuration are underperforming

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if they did it any different you’d need a better computer to play the game

Isn’t it calculated on server side?

It wouldnt impact performance at all. They add a bunch of physics to ground every year and my frames increase. This is just a lie

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The flight model isn’t configured at the time of your post.

The F-2A should have better flight performance than the Mig-29M of course.

Never compared these 2 aircraft. I was saying weight dosent matter. Read.