Easy
You still think this? Just beat a J-7D high alt and turned inside of a pursuing F-5.
Imagine just how strong the Harriers will be if they ever get properly Buffed.
J7e clears. I doubt even buffed barrier beats it
First game in the GR.3 after the buff, I think its pretty good
Buffed Harrier can go toe to toe with F-15 and F-16 if slow (400 knots or less) and low level
The 9.7 Harriers are going to slap hard this update lol.
The only thing that gives you trouble is the Mig-19, and even then you can still beat them
True MiG-19 is a good jet but the AIM-9 should clear them up as they dont have flares IIRC.
In game or IRL? IRL sure, but I’m talking about it in game.
In game, than no prolly would have a hard time.
Gaijin is just so annoying with this they have been given everything they need but just don’t listen.
First Gen Harrier STR still too low after Dev Buff // Gaijin.net // Issues
Harrier 1 Mouse Aim AOA limit // Gaijin.net // Issues
Harrier VIFF Turn rate to low // Gaijin.net // Issues
Since the first dev server
Damn. seems you are way beyond me in dogfighting with harrier :|
I am still a bit unsure that the current Harrier can ‘easily’ kicks J-7’s ass.
Still, I admit that fighting against them has become much easier than before.
lot-lot much easier.
If it does, the J-7E pilot has equal skill to the average US premium player. I’m fairly confident that the J-7E could beat any other 3rd gen jet.
I am liking the new harrier changes, they feel alot better to use now. I’ve yet to play a match in the SHar Frs1, but I have hope.
I hope they go up because of this.
A properly modeled Harrier would wipe the floor with it below 15,000 feet. End off.
I have spend a stupid amount of time reading into the Harriers and have learned about many of the tactics real shar pilots used so that might help lol.
I would recommend using max 20 degree nozzles in sustained turns and only use flaps when in diving turns as the flaps currently bleed way more speed than they should.
I have no doubt about that, but we now have is ‘unfinished’ version which didn’t release the true power. isn’t it?
I like the current change more than ‘it never happens in one more year’, and can’t wait to see further updates.
For now… just don’t let me fight against those damn MiG-23ML/A/D. XD
Stuck at uptier matches feels like a bollock.
Yeah, IG we can call it the 50% mark. Half way to getting everything it could do.
I am still going to keep pushing.
As they stand now though the Harriers are pretty useable, where as before they where just kind of useless lol. I do have to try much harder than I should have to but I can pretty reliably take on the F-5 and MiG-21 and friends at 11.0 and below.
I still have some faith in the J-7 at that point.
But right now, it’ll beat a harrier in game.
Your faith is ill placed lmao.
The Harrier can match its ITR with VIFF and sustain better turns. Well J-7D at least I would need to see performance charts of the J-7E to know for sure.
But if the Harrier has a 7/1 advantage over a MiG-21 than it should still be equal at the least
A good Harrier pilot will probably beat the J-7, a bad pilot, no
Yes at least it’s possible now.
With the old FM it was basically instant death.