First Generation Harriers discussion about flight performance and capabilities

Agreed I doubt its out of malice, more incompetence. Bit like HESH

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Original modeling being bad/full of placeholders. I agree, a lot of it is to do with limitaitons both now or when they were introduced or a lack of information on introduction

But it feels like a total lack of ongoing support for any of them. Things like the Sooty Exhausts, FRS1/FA2 HUD, heat sig issues (even a basic bodge fix using the F-117 code), SRAAMs, etc. I think there is a lot they could do, but just… haven’t. I know there are a LOT of vehicles in War Thunder, but a few feel like they get updates every other week and others its every other year and some of these fixes would probably take them a few minutes as its likely a single line of code that needs changes (like the sooty exhaust)

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News from this morning.

Time to climb and VIFF were both rejected. There are videos attached to the reports to prove they are under performing.

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Not just unfair it’s just them bullying it basically lmao.

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Slightly out of the main topic I guess,
While putting the new F-5A with AIM-9L on 11.0 as an event vehicle.
Keeping SHAR FRS.1 with broken FM on 10.7(Early)/11.0 feels like nothing but pure malice to harrier lovers. I guess.

At this rate, I think I am not gonna make it for spading FRS.1(Early) :|

Of course, I know it can’t be lower due to AIM-9L though…

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Rejecting stuff that says its performing worse in game then IRL…

good job gaijin

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They didn’t even give a reason. They just said their tests were close to manual. I employ anyone to try get within a minute of that time lol.

Hint: it’s not possible, gaijin is pulling stuff from their rear end

If I were a famous war thunder YouTube creator I would ask people to make spam reports.

I see so potentially it needs a bigger zone.

Just want to remind everyone that when Gaijin had the “Supersonic” update they really gave the UK a SUBSONIC Jet…

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Ah, javelin, one big beauty, which flies slower than F-86A and has a higher BR than it. (was the same, was still meaningless)

I loved that plane ‘before I saw her in WT’

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The scimitar as well the rudder lock up is a PITA. IK its realistic but how realistic is it based on the pilots notes ect.

By that note every Bf109 should lock up really bad too same with some USSR planes.

yep

Don’t worry I have provided the proof necessary to get that fixed;)

Just noticed Gaijin didn’t even get the basic Harrier physical model correct. The aileron is flush with the flaps in game and that’s not correct.

Air break should auto deploy when gear is down.

This is the A and C cockpit the C swapped out the light warnings right of the HUD for a RWR


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Wait, the F5G is only going to be 11.0? Are they mad? Should be more like 11.7, on par with the AV-8B(NA) at a minimum

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That’s basically just BR compression in action. The entire F-5 series should span from 10.7/11.0 all the way to 12.0 or 12.3, instead of the 10.7-11.3 we have now, with the harriers being 0.3/0.7 below the where they start in an ideal world/

I’ve played a couple matches in it recently, and I didn’t find it that abysmal. It still sucked facing anything above 11.3, but players are generally oblivious enough that they can’t see a 9L from 3 km away.

I personally don’t like that they are being carried by their missiles, it makes for some unfun gameplay compared to planes that aren’t, or have the opposite issue.

At 11.3 you have the F-5T and F-5E FCU, so it’s not like it can be at that BR too.

FRS1 E isn’t that bad but it’s identical brother (literally same everything - 2 more missiles) is at 11.0 and suffers