Feedback on PL-12 series missile balance changes in update

wingAreaMult is for the C/D versions the A/B have 1.275, just nitpicking

Dual plane modelling. 🤧

make a bug report with this information

datamined values arent accepted for bug reports

strange, it should be less as the wings are smaller

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/QTmBCAj372ZX
thats crazy for the manager to say not enough info

distFromCmToStab is a completely arbritary value.
R-27ER for example has a value of 0.1, even smaller than pl-12, but it pulls completely fine
it doesn’t line up whatsoever to irl values

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r27 has much bigger wing area

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yeah but saying that it should be increased based off irl is dumb imo cause it’s a value that’s seemingly all over the place in missiles

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its a smaller muliplier for the C/D it makes sense

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it should be increased to keep the missile performance

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pl/pl12a too weak after 23.04.2026 sever update // Gaijin.net // Issues

and he did the same

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Wow! Increased total thrust therefore need to nerf maneuverability to “balance”
Why this never happened on R77 to R77-1?
Just stop being double standard because it isn’t RUSSIA

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no you cant here is proof that you cant roll any other missile

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plus you dont even need rafale or ef to do that it can be done with su27 or f16 block10

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this is tested in RB right?

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yes

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holy thats horrendous
mig-19 outrolling it is hilarious

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i genuinely dunno anymore if i should laugh or cry after looking at the ariete and mig-19 part

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R-77-1 does have both. Second best in both in fact.

Thing is that is 100% subject to Gaijin, and it is nothing to do with realistic figures, it’s just a way to alter the turn performance. Also funny enough stuff like AIM-54/FK-90 and AAM-4/120 have vastly different values.

Alpha, Beta, dev server. At the end of that 90% of bugs still exists.

Those values aren’t really associated with IRL values as I said, so yeah, more like a joystick for Gaijin to manipulate flight performance.

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