At least they don’t need to proof RVV-AE is R77
Things come to China:
Proof PL12AE (E for export) is equivalent PL12A
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I remember when the CM502KG came and had only the HE warhead,saw ppl pointing the SAP-HE warhead of it,they all replied " theres nothing showing SAP-HE warhead on CM502KG ",i got the missiles brochure from CPMIEC,and after such a long time i just got a “devs decided not to add SAP-HE”…if was somekind of nerf they wouldve accepted instantly…
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what exactly happened with PL12s i havent used them since last update ? i dont really play toptier anymore as its become a horrible mode
basically they got their pull/amount they can turn cut in half, it’s about as bad as amraam.
and now they can be out rolled like sparrows
WHAT how? what did they use to justify such a change
check this
they did it to increase the range (very slightly)
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we are entering R27ERs level bs
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lmao real
Fr it’s so sad and I lost all faith in gaijin that it’ll never get unnerfed which is sad because China is my favorite air nation, and I can barely play it now
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both AIM120 and PL12 are victims of Gaijin’s discrimination, we shouldn’t fight each other, but fight Gaijin who transfer the rage toward itself to a direction in between players. we should stick together
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Right, arguing with each other will only prevent us from getting what we want
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Unfortunately, we’re in the minority and don’t have much clout; only a tiny fraction of players visit the forum, and most just accept the game as it is. I even talked to two of my real-life friends who also play this game, and when I explained to them what the PL-12 nerf was all about, they said they don’t play as China, so there’s no problem
Yesterday the US, today China—which nation will be next to get the short end of the stick so that only one “right” nation remains to tower over the rest? Everyone knows which nation I’m thinking of right now…
Maybe it’s worth trying with bigger YouTubers; if the issue gains more traction, it’ll reach higher-ups at Gaijin that this isn’t the way to go—the game is the players; without players, there’s no game—simple as that.
One thing is certain: if Snail doesn’t reverse these changes (or reach a compromise), the Chinese Era VIII–IX in the aircraft tech tree is doomed.
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I can understand why many people don’t care about this matter, after all, human energy is limited, and most people only care about things directly related to themselves. Therefore, our only successful large-scale protest was about profits, as profits are related to everyone.
Most of the issues on WT are like this: only a small percentage of people are concerned, but in fact, the PL-12 incident has attracted more attention than the vast majority of previous issues because it concerns the entire Chinese Air Force. So I believe that the voice we are currently making is loud enough, but obviously it is far from having a direct impact on Gaijin like in 2023, so Gaijin is still repeatedly trying to suppress opinions and using casual replies to evade players.
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We need to keep speaking out. Besides the forums, what other platforms can we use to get attention? I’ve already updated the Steam reviews.
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/p2fBqTXBEEHk
Let everyone concerned about this error in the specs do their part—maybe eventually they’ll pass the issue on for review. A top-tier ARH missile with the maneuverability of an AIM-7F Sparrow has to be a mistake… Or at least that’s what I’m still hoping—I guess I’m just naive.
In any case, putting pressure on them matters; it’s worth a try.
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You can report this as much as you want, youll always get same response. Also your bug report got already answered
I just realized they did autopilot change (including hidden one) without any source. Mass and speed changes have bug reports with sources to back that up but autopilot change has none.
So they made change based on whatever they made up and now require players to bring sources to fix that.
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they made them to make the missiles more “stable”
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By “stability” we mean that it can be rolled STABLY and that it STABLY does not exceed 18-25G, logical👌
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??? But it rarely goes beyond Mach 4—I don’t see the problem. It’s normal for missiles not to reach their maximum speed, ideal conditions are needed to reach 38g.