Feedback on naval changes and new bugs in update

Feedback:

While crew numbers showing all the time is kind of “ok”, there is a problem in compare to previous iteration with percentages, now you don’t know the threshold when your or enemy ship will start auto drowning(and no it’s not when you reach “dark grey” part of the crew scale). For example here target have some crew left before “dark grey” part but already start auto drowning. So we kind of need that threshold showing in interface(cause before we could tell it by percentages).

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Next problem is that you also changed the hull compartments indication from green-yelow-red-black with brick scale under the ship doll element, to dark red - little brighter red - brightest red indication under the enemy doll itself and by the sides of you ship doll, where brightest red means that compartment is dead, this progression is quite a complicated to understand and not easy to read from the screen neither yours or enemy current condition(btw. you have different indication on doll hull sections and transparent-yelow-red-black - sync this two indications in this colors for them to match).

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Torpedo traces on the map drawn above the ship icons instead of below them, so they overlapping them hiding ships on the map.

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With sea changes you somehow changed the weather too, so now on same weather presets we have even bleaker and hazier scenes, lightening and sun now is too bright - blinding player which is unacceptable, overall image become even bleaker most of the time - we need some colorful picture not “grim dark” all the time, as we have now on test server(and I’m not event mentioning that in first person view it became even more overbrighted and hazed), fix it please before it went live and start annoying players drive them into depression.(from 20+ matches on test server none of them was colorful)

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New, from real matches - now even tropical maps look like doom and gloom

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Bugs:

  1. On dev server bots that replace absent players(those who have names) now do not shoot and aim on targets beyond 6km which makes them passive targets most of the time in the match. I suppose that someone tried to fix “convoy bots”(which were shooting over their guns max ranges)Community Bug Reporting System but broke all of them.

  2. Enemy doll still doesn’t update correctly despite stated in bugreport that it was fixed. Destroyed modules and sections turn “red” or even “yellow” after couple of seconds after being destroyed(while should stay black until repaired) and doesn’t update from those colors, when fixed, back to “white” state. Only reselection of target helps. It’s a crucial problem which strips players from the right information on enemy condition, it should be fixed with priority.
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modules and hull section destroyed turned “red and yellow”

real state of the enemy after reselecting him

  1. Camera on enemy doll zooms down to the point of your last hit, but never zooms out, as it acted before. So you don’t know what’s happening on the other side of the enemy doll until you hit that part.

  2. When controlling a plane enemy ship doll doesn’t update at all, it stuck on first selected ship and it state.(funny but in test flight there is no such problem)

  3. On dev server faced invisible enemy ships on palau islands and frantz josef land shooting at you without any ability to target them. Example invisible ship shooting at my plane

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Yup, something like this should be better to understand the status of your ship combining part of the old HUD and the new one:

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The “health bar” should also be clearer.
As you said you start sinking even when the bar is not in the grey zone.

Some simple reworks using color codes ( green to black ) can make it way more user friendly than it is now.
The grey bar could also be reduced as it represent the " abandon the ship " zone and now its way to overwelming, taking almost half of the bar.

Something like this that also integrates small lines that both show the danger level on your ship and triggers the color change on the bar can be both visually pleasing and easier to understand:

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Let’s hope this can be implemented in this update or in a minor one really soon.

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This is also a big problem when you use a “true” torpedo boat like the Shima or other Japanese DDs.
You basically create a “courtain” that blocks the entire minimap and you completely lose spatial awareness.

Maybe reducing the trail to one-two dots after the torp can help mitigate this problem as right now it shows the entire path from start to hit and the start point is not really usefull if you are the one that launched them ( maybe in the future, when subs are added, knowing the starting point of a torp using hydro can be usefull to track your target both for ships and subs alike )

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Small thing to add, the overall ship’s wake (big ships at least) now has a repeating pattern when seen from the air:

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Old one doesn’t do this, though it in terms of length, the new one is better):

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Thougths about “new water”

I can’t say that new water that better then previous one, as for me the main problem with water in naval that there is no waves displaying beyond 5 km(and it stayed the same with new one) so most of the time in first person view you just see flat surface of water without any waves,

Second problem with water is that there is actually only two types of sea behavior, that you get in real matches - “still sea” and “barely waved sea” - “stormy sea” almost never played in matches i had it just couple of times in years of playing.

None of this issues were addressed with “new water”. But we deserve wave animation beyond 5km, and different weathers and time of the day in matches.

Now most of the games is started between 9:00 and 16:00 time of the day with 90% inbetween 11:00 and 13:00 on thin clouds or small clouds and hazed weather - but where ours evening or night battles, sunset/sunrise battles, battels in stormy weather, rainy weather or even clear sky, it’s all in the game client but never used. We need more presets for time of the day and weather used in game matches, enabling this will bring way more life to naval battles than just “water retexturing”, and didn’t need alot of work cause it’s already in the game, just some tweaks with presets in naval matchmaking.

ps. Please remove “haze” screen effect in first person view in naval, it’s awfull.

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Finally someone talks about the hazy view while aiming and the water cutoff at range! Sometimes you can barely make out the horizon even in fair weather.

I do think the new water does a good job for making the open ocean seem “deeper”, though I think that it took away from the coastal areas. Areas with shallower waters and in regions like the pacific should keep their teal looks, and maybe their more sparkly appearance. There are times where the newer colors look more suitable, and there are times when the older ones do.


The current water appearance is closer to the first image above, and the new one is closer to the second image.
Ideally they can try to find a way to have different appearances for different conditions.