Fake paper vehicles tec tree / Ground Unrealistic game mode

[Scärlett]

Discuss about fake paper tanks / planes could be added as tec tree in the future with their own tec tree and game mode !

Why?
Mr snail will run out of tanks / planes at one point.

Side note:
Fake vehicles will separated from ground realistic battle game mode.

The idea is new tec tree with paper vehicles for each nation that have paper design in same tec tree and they only could be used in unrealistic game mode for both air and ground !

It’s extra option for all players and to grind for fun :D

Mr snail put salt on world of something and steal their players

New game mode will be called unrealistic it’s same as realistic but with fake paper tank / plane designs !

Polls:

Would you like to see fake / paper tec tree ?

• Yes
• No

Should fake paper tanks have their own ground unrealistic gamemode ?

• Yes
• No

Should fake vehicles have their own tech tree?

• Yes
• No
• No / Suggest more ideas

Should this be only limited time event for fun?

• Yes
• No

Would you like to see fake paper vechicles have their own tec tree separated from normal tec tree?

• Yes separated from normal tec tree
• No

Example image:

Cons of the idea :
more research time
other game mod will lose players maybe ?!

what’s your feedback ?
Do think it’s good idea to be added at one point?
What paper tank and plane would you like to see?

[Константинович7]

A separate game mode for unrealistic/paper vehicles? Definitely a no, there’s arcade battles, the whole structure of arcade battles could be used; and unrealistic/paper vehicles are not in consideration for Gaijin and War Thunder and there’s April Fools for that as well.

[Kingtiez-live]

If this means I can finally get ahold of the Object 705A I’m game.

[Caernarvon02]

Fake tanks should be fully deleted or kept available to all

I personally want to see things like panther 2, flakpz341 and hori deleted never to return though

[gfdsa_killer]

Maybe as a one time april fools event.

I dont want this game to be turned into WOT slop. Also many paper vehicles have unrealistic stats that in real life would fail to even work, like P.1000 Ratte or many japanese paper heavy tanks.

[O_Warrior0]

I don’t mind paper vehicles, but I want paper vehicles that could be constructed, not a bunch of purely unrealistic vehicles that break physics. Then they could be added to normal TT, for those that break the laws of physics and that are impossible to construct can go to the unrealstic gamemode.

[Vulcan_b21575]

Too few people play the non major nations, if the more realistic paper vehicles were added to all nations it would generate gaijin more players and players staying for longer cos oooh cool thing big gun

[TM_06]

A word I think gets thrown around too often in discussions like these is “fantasy”. There’s a fine line between plausible or possible and fantasy.

• P.43bis and P 35/43? 44M Tas? Re.2006 and C.207? Char G1? D.554? J-21B? Landsverk Leo and Lansen? Plausible.
• Ho-Ri II? Mitsu-104? J 27? M.580T? FCM F1? ARL 42? Ki-84N? Possible.
• P.1000 Ratte? Lowe? KV-5? T-42? TV-8? Fantasy.

I am personally of the belief that minor nations such as Italy, Japan and Sweden along with France (not a minor nation but that’s outside the scope of this discussion) should be exceptions to the paper/mockup rules in order to alleviate the issues caused by excessive copy-paste such as nation identity dilution and identification troubles in sim battles. But this olive branch should only be extended towards plausible or possible paper/mockup vehicles that fill a hole or provide a properly unique option, not fantasy ones that are completely impossible.

[iegaatdao]

I’d like to see addition of paper vehicles when the nation can’t provide a fill in.
If the paper vehicle is too insane or simply doesn’t exist (as if not even a reasonable blueprint exists) then you can resort to C&P.

I play aicraft and def Japan would win a the from this and just axis in general, specially on super prop / Early jet sections

But other nations aren’t excluded, Britain for example has a full warehouse of bluprint aircraft

Sweden should be allowed to scrap the barrel to add new aircraft

France should be allowed to pull some new props, like Kolko ACA.5 for example.

Italy also should have some stuff in there. Ca.183bis is a nice start (early “jet”)

USSR probably and US too, is just that they actually built the aircraft which is why you don’t see “paper planes” on these nations a whole lot.

And ofc german TT would fill some nice gaps in super prop and early jet age, like Ta-183 (better suited for 7.3 between he-162 and MiG-15bis)

But even if no gap is filled i’d still love some paper designs, it is more than welcome since they can be very flexible and easy to balance.
Even if no data about FM can be made you can just simulate the aircraft if it was fully built and in your view.

Just use it on all nations, you can stick a “speculative aircraft” label on the statcard if you want in order to separate them and even apply on early Cold war.
Sure there will be absolute batshit insane stuff which is questionable if they should have even been possible to assemble.

Which is why I believe before any work is started on a “paper vehicle” there should be a poll open for 1 month which requires you to read an entire document about the vehicle in question and shows proof that even a blueprints existed in order to vote, in order to filter out the most impossible ones or ones that don’t fit any type of gameplay like the “rammer interceptors”.

some Nice books

Spoiler

Japanese Secret Projects Experimental Aircraft 1939-1945 | PDF | Fighter Aircraft | Aircraft
Luftwaffe - Secret Designs of The Third Reich PDF | PDF | Luftwaffe | Fighter Aircraft
Soviet X-Planes PDF | PDF | Aircraft | Fighter Aircraft

[YaSen]

I don’t want to see paper/fake vehicles at all. Although some unfinished prototypes only missing some functionality, like Draco for example would be fine to have. At least there should be some consistency in the game with such stuff, not like: “we won’t add Re.2006, because it didn’t have its first flight, but we will continue to bring Bf-109Z-1 on sales every year just because we have already added it, so whatever”.

[iegaatdao]

@YaSen

Although some unfinished prototypes only missing some functionality,

We already do see these ones I believe

ho-229 V3 for example (only V-2 version flew) and Yak-15P-ish (name itself was made after the first rushed 15 aircraft were made for a parade, some didn’t have weapons, others didn’t have some intruments and all of them didn’t have armor plates)

[Scärlett]

@YaSen

I don’t want to see paper/fake vehicles at al

fake vehicles will extra option to grind with their own game made that’s why i call it (unrealistic game mode ) it’s basically realistic battles same maps same everything only difference is that they won’t play with normal tec tree vehicles tanks / planes and they only play against other nations with fake paper vehicles it’s like extra option for fun.

and prototypes tanks / plane won’t be effected or added for this tec tree.

Example image

@iegaatdao

I’d like to see addition of paper vehicles when the nation can’t provide a fill in.

i disagree with adding fake vehicles to nation that can be filed mr snail did something way better is adding small nation to fill the gap !

Reason is fake vehicles have fake stats and will cause so much stress for players / developers and players who like realistic will ruin their experiences.

that’s why fake tec tree will away from normal tec and realistic game mode !