The issue is that most players avoid using the market due to its high cost. Skins are one thing, sure, but a majority that are sold are under 1 GC, whereas all but the crappiest vehicles are over 20-30 GC if not way more for the good ones.
true, the market can be costly but it´s still part of the games economy and rewards system. Consoles players just want a fair alternative, not necessarily the same thing just something equal in value
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That’s the thing; there is no fair alternative. It will either be worse (which console players will complain about), better (which PC players will complain about), or the same (which, at this point, is not feasible due to restrictions by Microsoft and Sony). Allowing console players to get the Obj-279 for free through a points system will piss off every PC player because the only way we can get it, besides gambling GE in the events that happen twice or so throughout the year, is to pay over 1300 GC.
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i agree with your answer i just feel like at least give us something else than 25 war bounds for our chests
since thats not really much
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I agree that 25 warbonds is little, but at the same time, it is a trophy worth basically nothing, so there is no incentive for them to give us anything for it. A better option would be for them to allow us to recycle them like unwanted boosters, backups, or orders.
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but than hopefully we can atleast choose an wnated one and not random
Yes they cost nothing and for us they cost a fortune (to buy and open)
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I understand woes of console players.
But this is just… it has lot of problems. Theres a million and one questions to answer.
- You said “store” their value. Wouldnt that effectively be selling?
- You also said “their value” but do you mean their warbond value, or market value in GJN coins?
- If by “their value” you meant warbonds, how would you determine the prices of skins and vehicles in warbonds? Or rather who would determine it?
- If by “their value” you meant GJN coins, how would you solve the issue with supply and demand for those crates? Since even if I wanted to exchange my skin crates for GJN, someone would need to be buying first.
- If by “their value” you meant GJN, how would you solve the further issues with supply and demand regarding skin and vehicle aviability? Theres artificial scarcity, for example, there are 7 IS-7s to sell, but only one sells for 1949 GJN. The second one sells for 1980. Would your point system sell the IS-7 to all console players for the lowest price?
- Further, would any sold IS-7 be removed from the market?
how will it kill the market if its only for console players, tell me if I’m wrong but I don’t think people are going to change their account to be a console account so they can get a guaranteed skin, you guys already get guaranteed skins and mods and sights because of war thunder market and WT live while like OP says we only get 25 warbonds for a chest… Not even enough to buy a special task. As long as we don’t get the vehicles from OPs proposed idea what’s the issue, its not like we can sell the skins, and if someone changes their console account to PC then if its on their account they should NOT be allowed to sell anything to help prevent this from becoming a issue (but from my understanding account changing is broken rn so yeah…) And no it shouldn’t be for everyone because then PC player would likely start to inflate the marketplace with skins
(If there is any confusion with my post ask me about it and I will try to clear it up the best I can)
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I was saying it would kill the market on PC.
You never could turn an account from PC to console.
You can’t do this anymore.
WTLive is very underutilized by the playerbase, and consoles can customize their sights through the game; the only caveat is that you can import gooner sights (woe is me). Mods are purely visual/audio and are not related to this topic. And there is no such thing as a guaranteed skin; the trophies work the same on console and pc.
I don’t know how much it costs to open them on console, but it still costs money to buy the key through the Marketplace
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Yes. I don’t even really play on console anymore but I’m still punished by this
Any “technique”, “loophole” or “gimmick” to sell outside console markets will probably violate some WRITTEN agreement…and once Sony/Microsoft find out (and they will find out…players are not good at keeping secrets) there would be hell to pay…
That said…read some other post stating that sony is making it easier to use “global” markets on some other games…not sure if true and accurate…and if it can reach here…
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Wholeheartedly agree, for all the lack of features like the marketplace, account carryover and botched controls, I do wish we had some redeeming feature.
As far as the proposed points based system, that seems fine, especially when it comes to the skin crates, as we gave no option to choose an individual skin (which for 599 + 99 GE per crate is outrageous), and it does nothing to negatively affect the PC Market.
So overall this is a win-win but we’ll see if gaijin can ever overlook the profits from our current gatcha system.
I think beside violate written agreement Gaijin will face “Juristically” problem in EU countries like Belgium and Netherland are banning lootboxes and keye trade.
Why can’t Gaijin let us buy pack vehicles for GE? I can’t even buy them directly on a PC and I have to start up my console
Just to let you know, you only get 25 warbonds on pc also.
No-one sells the boxes/crates. Not worth it as they are worth little to nothing and there are so many.
You are not losing out in that aspect, majority of players have lots of them, same situation.
You would have to wait for 78022 players to sell theirs before you can sell yours for the lowest price possible. . . .
Console players/console accounts have many other restrictions other than that
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I dont dispute that.
Console players get aim assist for spaa so it goes both ways.
Nonethless I think console should too have access to the marketplace.
my only problem Is with the sights is that there aren’t enough, I always see German ww2 sights and all of these other cool sights (not gooner sights) that I cant get because gaijin is to lazy to make them
THIS^ pisses me off I’m sorry but if people aren’t going to use it then why give it to them, there are so many sights and skins I want to use but can’t because I’m simply a console player