Fair Play: November 2023

It affected many titles that used EAC, but my point was that it’s easily possible to get false positives from legitimate software.

roughly 1k per month is nice improvement … but it still means nothing compared to the sheer size of bot infestation you can clearly see in almost every battle.

still too little & too inconsistent … on one hand we have account just one day old already caught in the net (created Nov 13th, banned Nov 14th … not bad), on the other hand there are ridiculously obvious bots that Gaijin is still tiptoeing around. For technical side of things there can be some fear of false positives, but I very much doubt there can be false positive of “playing tens of thousands of battles for months and months and months 24/7 nonstop”.

Nice, good job guys!

Waste of time their bot accounts their not even real their just burner accounts their creators don’t even care if you ban them they will just replace them, for every one you ban five more can take it’s place when the real creator behind them wants to make more.

All they really are is just an easy kill I’m perfectly fine with that, just wait till the day when they program them to actually dogfight real players that will be when the fun will begin.

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Most of them are bots. ie; They really were only hurting Gaijin. They are still doing next to nothing about cheaters, which is what really hurts the game.

Five of the bans on the list were for cheating in esports:

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So… Gaijin, what are you going to do about the co-branded camoes for the two major esports teams (RAWR and MAMMAMIA) that were booted from competitions today for cheating, and some of their players on today’s permabanned list? Gonna continue to proudly take your 15% cut on these? Just curious.

rawr
mammamia

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They will probably leave them.

Then they’ll be promoting membership in teams they know have been cheating in their tournaments. Exactly the same as having a leaderboard where 58 of the top 100 were permabanned from game today. Until they started doing that, it showed they tolerated cheating, even when they knew about it. Actions speak louder than words.

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And if they remove them then they will need to remove them from not just the market but from every player who has them, doing that reduces profit.

Not at all. They could change all the names to remove both the team names on the next update everywhere without any fuss at all. They’d probably rise in price. Or they could convert them to 200 GE sellable skins purchaseable in game and take them out of the trophy box and the market altogether. Still make money for the artist or whatever.

Scaring people to stop botting and cheating, or lose their accounts (and any other associated privileges like a custom skin the company made just for you and your friends) will remove a lot more botters and cheating than the bans will. The harder they bring the hammer down here, the better.

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Scaring them wont stop them those 4,000 banned accounts are burner accounts made on mass that don’t effect their user, for every one of those they ban their creator can just make more and will, all it’s doing is just giving them a good show and setting up the pot for something worse.

Even I have been called a bot before and subject to users trying to get others to spam report me just because I don’t play like they do and rush straight into the fight and die, since I use my tactical mind and fight smarter and not harder in most cases I tend to look like a bot and fly very smoothly, does that make me a bot?
Most of the bots actions are still very rudimentary most players do the same basic rudimentary actions in the game and act like bots from a distance some don’t even bother using chat functions either, does that mean their bots now too? How long before they start banning players simply for acting like a bot the snail has falsely banned players in the past.

Personally I think they should just leave them alone they help supplement the player base and ease the struggle of the matchmaker since some Br.'s are dead. They also give an easy kill here and there before they start programing them to actually be able to dogfight, what will the snail do then?

They can create a new account, but they will have to invest for a new premium.

And the people who bought such an account once may not want to repeat that mistake. The message will be spread too.

Were they tho? Like, they were hurting the playerbase but they were also buying a top tier premium on each of those bots.
Honestly banning them will also make botters buy more stuff for the new bots they make. So it’s also profits that r probably behind all that.

Seriously, please just once read a thread before you blurt out your uninformed opinion.

The guy from 2012 who lost 2,000 vehicles wasn’t a “burner account”.
The guy who complained because 10 years of progress was wiped wasn’t a “burner account”.
The 58 accounts from the top 100 all had many many premiums, now all gone. Not “burner accounts.”
The guy who was both aimbotting and boat botting in the YouTube video wasn’t a “burner account.”
The 5 accounts who were caught for cheating in tournaments weren’t “burner accounts.”

I mean, those are all right in this thread if you bothered to read it. But you didn’t.

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Bro they busted people in the tourneys rofl doubt they where botting… But yea booting bots is pretty easy hope they ready for the real challenge

The House always wins…

Nonsense buddy, most of these accounts were simply sold and what the new users did with them has nothing to do with the tournaments.
For most of us, i.e. owners of the e100, which we put a lot of effort into acquiring, at that time the vehicle became of little value after many years.
The amount of actual cheating at tournaments was negligible
Many players spent a lot of time checking replays of various tournaments
everyone was watching out for each other.

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great work!

It’s a good start.

But there are still some fishy dudes out there.

But i really like that it feels like Gaijin is doing something

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“Negligible”… They permabanned five longtime players from game forever for cheating and completely upended the winner tables of all the 11th anniversary tank tournaments. That was literally yesterday.

“The standard you walk past is the standard you accept.” (link)

If Gaijin really wants a bot-free environment they should ban all the botters. Yesterday was the first time, in the history of the game, they have ever announced the banning of air RB or naval RB botters en masse (as well as the five tournament cheaters). Any player who actually cares about this game should support them in this and encourage them to continue.

Similarly, if Gaijin really wants cheating-free tournaments, then they shouldn’t be selling camoes glorifying the teams whose members were found to be cheating. Bring the hammer down, don’t be seen to play favorites, encourage fairness. These are not hard answers.

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