Fair Play July 2023

We need to take action quickly to ban these bots.
BOTs made the game more unbalanced.
The easiest way to judge is that some of the vehicles in the record have died thousands of times but barely destroy anything; And those accounts that are online 24 hours a day, there must be a big problem.

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The official Gaijin bots are quite easy to recognize. The ones in air battles are just targets, same as the ground targets. The ones in naval are used to fill up matches when there aren’t enough players. Those use generic names like “Robert”, “Friedrich”, “Vladimir”, or “Hitoshi”. They also don’t gain any score, and show up as bots in the server replay.

Don’t confuse them with names that have a 4-digit number after the generic name, such as “Robert2511”. These are actual players, displayed instead of the real nick when the player has the anonymity feature enabled. You can still see their real nicks in the server replay. Many bots do use that feature though, which is why it’s important not to confuse them with the Gaijin bots.

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Fully agreed.

First time posting something, please forgive if wrong.

I think this is step in the right direction but imo it is happening more often than not :

I came across player in BR 6.7. He was using M51 and server side replay Players View shows his tracking us through woods as he had ground tracking radar like one Khrizantema-S has. He was 8 out of 8 through the woods in Mozdok from over 1800 in BR 6.7, 0 dead.

I reported his replay as using illegal modification and I don’t see him banned.
You can find replay if you browse my battles, look for Mozdok around 2023.07.02 17.36.56 ( not sure if Terms allow posting other player’s user names here ? ).

Since I am just an average player only playing BR in 3 main tech trees, I would like someone else to take a look and lmk if this is legit or not.

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Nice!

I’m glad something is being done but this isn’t good enough. I looked over the list of banned accounts and saw none of the extremely blatant abusers I’ve reported over the years on it. It is infuriating that you have nothing in place to detect extremely blatant abuse and botting in the form of accounts farming kills and playing with scripts, mainly in naval battles and air simulator battles, and that attempts to report such activity even directly to GMs on the forums have been ignored.

I could point you to accounts right now that are still unbanned that anyone could tell were botting and being used by others to farm kills with a single glance at their profiles: hundreds of battles with thousands of deaths and nothing else done. I used to keep track of these more closely, but the repeated lack of a response killed what enthusiasm I had left to help.

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Haha, there will come a time when there will be more banned players than non-banned players

Thank you Gaijin for acknowledging the problem, nice to hear you’re working on it! Good communication!
More swift and harsh punishment for bot users!

What I find funny is that no one - literally no one - outside the developers circle is able to make a user who reached level 80 + with just a Frank Knox, now make it plenty of users as such and that’s already extremely impossible. Which leads to the conclusion: -shoti- bot are run by Gaijin themselves, plus it is no coincidence they started to appear soon after a certain semi update to the platform. So yes, to sign things up, bots are allowed in WT and are welcomed by the creators of the platform. Daniel

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It makes not a lot of sense, the chances to earn more than you pay are definitely poor. Please correct me if I am wrong though. Daniel

There’s a risk to that. Rage reporting. That’s potentially thousands of false reports, every day.
How do you sort that out? Make a bunch of people look at every single report, trying to sort out the false reports, or make an automated system that will ban you after receiving a number of reports?I’ve experienced that and it’s a mess.
In my opinion, the best and only way to fight against bots is to completely ban any 3rd party tools.

i was only considering mixed battle rb. EC/sim is a completely different topic and has it’s own reward system.

This was a good idea, a capcha will debilitate the bots without banning any account

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That particular mass botting plan (The Hundred Bots of -shoti-) had nothing to do with the update or the economy roadmap. Frank Knox was very profitable before and very profitable after. Those bots were all created on May 19 (they moved en masse from a different squadron to -shoti- on July 1)… the La Royale update was June 14. So, no real connection. They’ve all been playing continuously for 74 days, including since this article was posted, have ground out most of the US bluewater tree, and as mentioned, are collectively now within striking distance of being the #1 activity squadron in War Thunder, even if the commander got his own account banned for ground AA botting yesterday.

But yes you would have to be wilfully blind not to see a squadron that every player can see every day in game simply by opening the squadron search in game and looking at the first page to see if they’re on top of all the human squadrons yet.

(As others have pointed out, their owner is sitting on around 6 billion SL going into the summer loot crate season in a week or two as well, if they want to start cashing out.)

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Not disagreeing, just pointing out as the number of bots in a match approaches 100% their K/d mathematically has to approach parity (K/d=1). That’s part of what we’re seeing in naval now too, irrespective of any bot script improvement.

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Thank you for adressing this problem. Please look at each of the members of the shoti squadron. We cannot report each and everyone of a 100+ player bot squad.

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Thanks for the transparency.

I know this is hard, but, whatever it takes.

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This topic is not for you to spout your disgusting, xenophobic prejudices in it. War Thunder is a game open to everyone, regardless of religion or country of origin. As long as a Player obeys our rules, he is welcome in the game. The moment he breaks these rules, he is punished. And his nationality does not matter in the slightest here. Please stop with these disgusting suggestions, or else I will be forced to revoke your access to speak on our forum.

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I would not suggest this in any other circumstance, but there were many good suggestions done on the reddit forum regarding how to adress the botting issue. One of them was to tag botting accounts in a way that onlyGaijin can see and make those accounts play against other flagged accounts in lobies only for those who are botting/cheating, therefore ban is not even necessary.

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And how exactly would you achieve that, may I ask? That’s something that’s MUCH easier said than done.

Rage reporting already happens as much as it can with the current system. Just splitting out a “botting” category won’t suddenly increase that.