Hi! If you suspect a player is a bot, you can report them in game and select the suspected bot option and provide feedback on the bot like behavior. This way the people who handle such requests can look at those accounts and maybe feed to the snail if they are a bot. As stated here in a news post
Just please do not start naming accounts at random in the forum, we do not witch hunt other players.
Thank you!
This is great, some people seem to be upset. Some people getting banned for botting is way better than none! With how advanced bots are these days, it can be hard for aging anti cheat software of games
Actually children in China will try their best to get into games like register accounts by using their parents or even grandparents XD.
And this is actually just a regulation for mostly mobile games produced in China.
btw I think the reason why hackers seem to be more in China is probably due to the huge amount of people in Chinese market. Imagine that even the small proportion like 0.1% when times billions of players are a huge number, so actually it’s understandable why so many Chinese players are on board.
Just like I comment below, this regulation is only for newly produced mobile games in China. It have nothing to do with the imported games like WT.
Well, shoti squadron was allowed to bot freely all through the event, combined tally in tens of thousands of battles and nothing happened … and based on the huge spike of questionable market transactions all of them got their Renown & are dumping them on market now.
Same with the bot bombers in air RB …
So I wouldn’t hold my breath for any good news about fight against the bot infestation …
Ehhhrrrr… Didn’t you read my post above here. I said I reported my ass of.
See this is the thing though. If this decision tree shared by a game master below a couple weeks ago is still accurate, then all the bot reports you’re encouraging people to make “in game” are being summarily thrown out. So either @Schindibee, the game master, is wrong about the process you use, or you’ve created a dead letter box through in-game reporting to bury the bot problem. Would kinda like to know which it is before I spend any more time reporting, tbh.
Unfortunately there are still so many about. One thing I’ve noticed is they are usually low ranked players who play like they’ve been here for years - they kill so quickly. 4 of us got killed in quick succession by an Me110F in an account that was on the banned list (I wasn’t surprised to see it was the very first name on the list).
You’re right that banning the account isn’t really a solution for the simple reason that this is a F2P game and they will just start another account.
A problem for me, however, is that I can’t inform the team to report it because I’ve been chat-banned (mostly for screaming blue murder at team killers). I think there needs to be a better solution to a blanket chat-ban whereby individuals can just mute other individuals.
At least Gaijin are finally admitting that War Thunder has such problems, which they weren’t before. It’s a shame people want to ruin such a great game in this way.
I’m sorry, but that’s no excuse any more. They are banning accounts at nowhere near the industry standard for games of this kind. There’s simply no enforcement being conducted. Having to restart accounts and lose progression when accounts are banned IS a disincentive. It’s not the whole answer but currently it’s just simply not being done at all. I put up some relevant comparative data on this here: Fair Play July 2023 - #201 by Bruce_R1
I have to say that I think you’re correct in saying this. In my example the guy mentioned on the list was supposed to be banned (according to the list) yet “he” shot 4 of us down in quick succession only a couple of days ago.
I was really only talking about the lower level accounts. Banning an account is only effective if the player has put some effort into it (i.e. level 100). As a joystick player it took me 3 years to reach level 100 (my brothers a mouse aimer and it took him a year).
If there is no real deterrent then these fools will continue to do this. It seems they aren’t really being punished for what they do, but heaven forbid if you come down hard on a deliberate team-killer… Just where are their priorities?
Yes, I’ve noticed the B-25 thing too. All heading for the same base… I suppose all we can do is report it as bots. That is, the more players are aware that they are bots the quicker they can be reported and sorted. Looking at the chat though, a lot don’t realise that they are and shout at them for bombing the same target!
Whatever happened to Gaijin saying “Because all calculations are done server-side, there is no way WT can be hacked or bots cannot be used”?! Anything can be hacked, server-side or not, as they have found out.
I’ve actually had enough of losing expensive aircraft to bots and so am just sticking to the lower levels for a while.
The server sided mechanics are only pushed to the hacking client situation, not bots… Bots and automation is different.
Although i am with you in general - losing a plane to a bot player in a bot-bomber is imho not necessary and can be avoided by ignoring them.
Not talking about bot bombers though. There was this Russian named guy in a SWORDFISH of all things - low-ranked (15) who killed a 112 V1, a He115, and 2x 109B in pretty quick succession. I noted that if I got within a certain range of him he’d turn and come for me. If I turned away out of a certain range he would leave me, always at about the same range (coincidence? IDK). And he did it all with bombs onboard because he went and bombed a base afterwards.
When I hit him with a 37mm shell he “appeared” to be dead (the scoreboard said he was) but flew on, and was clearly manoeuvring.
The other day I blew a wing off a B7A2 which was doing rather well. He turned on me and shot me down WITH ONE WING!!! (how did I know? I saw the gloat screen after he killed me). He only had ONE FRIGGIN’ WING! I was in the Tempest V (vickers P) and was supposed to be able to turn with him at least…
Try telling me that’s not bot behaviour. If it isn’t what the bloody hell is going on? It’s demoralising. There seem to be an awful lot about. And they can be a lot more sophisticated than they used to be (the B25 ones use dumb basic scripts, but there seem to be ones that have aimbots etc. now).
If a mouse +KB user has little chance against these what chance a joystick/pad user?).
Mhm - don’t know what to say, i try it:
I never saw any fighter bots. The only evidence i have that something like that exists was this insane I-153P bot scoring ~ 4.000 kills in ~ 24 hours in Air SB a while ago. There are lots of guys with 2nd accounts trying to seal club, so your Swordfish ((BR 1.0) guy might just be a vet scoring some very easy pilot snipe kills at this BR. Manouvering after being “killed”" is not unusual…
Dogfighting an experienced B7A2 pilot is usually a death sentence, the Tempest is a rather bad turnfighter - even the very good turning 4.3 Typhoon has zero chance in a turnfight, XP-50s are ez prey.
With about 3.000 games in both B7A2 versions (ofc with joystick, SFC and instructor off) i can assure you that i never lost an entire wing (outside a fire) - usually you lose a wingtip and due to the large wing area it might look like he had lost a wing. Otherwise the plane is not controllable…
Regarding aimbots in bot bombers: From my pov these bot bombers with thousands of matches have all aced crews and it looks like that if you come inside 600-800 meters of their turrets they score very often hits, crits and kills if the attacking plane is too slow or flies straight. Ik that the crew skill cards say that ai gunners open fire at around 200 meters, but this is from my pov not correct.
I still don’t share your opinion that flying with joystick is outside headons a disadvantage vs mouse users, but i hope we can agree to disagree …have a good one!
By manoeuvring i mean doing circles and straightening again. I’ve never seen that before, but I know the behaviour you mean. No, I’d never take the vickers P Tempest against a B7A2 that’s for sure. I caught this one diving though.
Nope I had actually ripped the whole wing off this B7A2! Perhaps it’s just a glitch, IDK. The shell blew the entire wing off; I saw it fall away too. It shouldn’t really be a death sentence against a fighter - I think the premium B7 is just too good, they murder fighters all the time if there’s a group of them. Of course, I can’t fly it like a mouse aimer can so I can’t!
Don’t you get “bounce” whilst you are trying to aim in a head-on? They don’t! Perhaps you’ve managed to hit the sweet spot. I can rarely get my sights straight before he nails me, so I just avoid them.
Remember that a low level account will usually have poor aircraft and pilot stats (remember how wobbly everything was when you started off?!). If you look on the replay too, the way the aircraft moves so smoothly and quickly onto its next target really seems to indicate bot-like behaviour.
If there are advanced fighter bots out there then this game has a big problem, and I don’t know how they are going to solve it. I had a look at the guys that were shot down by this fella and they were at least level 50, so they must have been some way competent (most had decent stats).
Actually just had a good match with the tempest, but because I’m currently chat-banned my remaining team mate thought I was a bot lol. You can get into a good groove with a tempest Vickers P or any large calibre gun because you can get your first shot off without wobble (that occurs later!). You get used to the recoil+nose dip after a while. Not sure if you’ve tried it. It’s damn fast so you might get on with it.
As long as there are Battle Pass challenges requiring to get 20k mission score you will often see 4 BP B7A2s. Too good - idk, it is slightly faster than the TT plane but the engine overheats much quicker. Fighting them requires patience as long as they have alt advantage and most guys don’t know the weaknesses.
As this thread is focussing on bots - here ist thee link to this insane Sim pilot.
4.220 kills vs 11 deaths is not bad…
The key is and was always to avoid and dodge headons as this is imho the only disadvantage vs mouse aim. So as soon i am past the headon the increased turn performance of joystick without instructor should give u the upper hand. I would assume that i scored less than 20 kills in “unavoidable” headons vs 8.000+ “non-headon” player kills…
A joystick pilot looks “smoother” if he had found the best joystick settings - it might take a while but it is worth the time.
And level 50 or 15 says nothing about crew skills or skill in general. If you meet a level 100 tanker flying a plane of slot no 3 or 4 in his nation he might be ez prey just because he leveled up in tanks and not in planes and he lacks experience in dogfights.
and in my opinion its not my duty to report this people its gajins duty to do something against it… or lose the honest players…
Sekurity 101% (LOL).
Player reporting is a contract. It only makes sense if it leads to consequences, if it’s on top of active enforcement and bans of unreported cheaters the company finds themselves, in a “hey, you missed one” sense. There’s no proof of any action being taken on any reports or any flagrant public activity by the botters in the last two months. So a rational anti-botting player response here would be to avoid heavily botted modes, or just use those modes for farming themselves, just in more manual ways. Spending your game time in server replays reporting in the current climate, however, is just simply not rational presently. I hope that changes.