Thank you Gaijin for acknowledging the problem, nice to hear you’re working on it! Good communication!
More swift and harsh punishment for bot users!
What I find funny is that no one - literally no one - outside the developers circle is able to make a user who reached level 80 + with just a Frank Knox, now make it plenty of users as such and that’s already extremely impossible. Which leads to the conclusion: -shoti- bot are run by Gaijin themselves, plus it is no coincidence they started to appear soon after a certain semi update to the platform. So yes, to sign things up, bots are allowed in WT and are welcomed by the creators of the platform. Daniel
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It makes not a lot of sense, the chances to earn more than you pay are definitely poor. Please correct me if I am wrong though. Daniel
There’s a risk to that. Rage reporting. That’s potentially thousands of false reports, every day.
How do you sort that out? Make a bunch of people look at every single report, trying to sort out the false reports, or make an automated system that will ban you after receiving a number of reports?I’ve experienced that and it’s a mess.
In my opinion, the best and only way to fight against bots is to completely ban any 3rd party tools.
i was only considering mixed battle rb. EC/sim is a completely different topic and has it’s own reward system.
This was a good idea, a capcha will debilitate the bots without banning any account
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That particular mass botting plan (The Hundred Bots of -shoti-) had nothing to do with the update or the economy roadmap. Frank Knox was very profitable before and very profitable after. Those bots were all created on May 19 (they moved en masse from a different squadron to -shoti- on July 1)… the La Royale update was June 14. So, no real connection. They’ve all been playing continuously for 74 days, including since this article was posted, have ground out most of the US bluewater tree, and as mentioned, are collectively now within striking distance of being the #1 activity squadron in War Thunder, even if the commander got his own account banned for ground AA botting yesterday.
But yes you would have to be wilfully blind not to see a squadron that every player can see every day in game simply by opening the squadron search in game and looking at the first page to see if they’re on top of all the human squadrons yet.
(As others have pointed out, their owner is sitting on around 6 billion SL going into the summer loot crate season in a week or two as well, if they want to start cashing out.)
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Not disagreeing, just pointing out as the number of bots in a match approaches 100% their K/d mathematically has to approach parity (K/d=1). That’s part of what we’re seeing in naval now too, irrespective of any bot script improvement.
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Thank you for adressing this problem. Please look at each of the members of the shoti squadron. We cannot report each and everyone of a 100+ player bot squad.
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Thanks for the transparency.
I know this is hard, but, whatever it takes.
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This topic is not for you to spout your disgusting, xenophobic prejudices in it. War Thunder is a game open to everyone, regardless of religion or country of origin. As long as a Player obeys our rules, he is welcome in the game. The moment he breaks these rules, he is punished. And his nationality does not matter in the slightest here. Please stop with these disgusting suggestions, or else I will be forced to revoke your access to speak on our forum.
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I would not suggest this in any other circumstance, but there were many good suggestions done on the reddit forum regarding how to adress the botting issue. One of them was to tag botting accounts in a way that onlyGaijin can see and make those accounts play against other flagged accounts in lobies only for those who are botting/cheating, therefore ban is not even necessary.
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And how exactly would you achieve that, may I ask? That’s something that’s MUCH easier said than done.
Rage reporting already happens as much as it can with the current system. Just splitting out a “botting” category won’t suddenly increase that.
Modern AI programs can solve CAPTCHAs though. A captcha could be used as part of a layered system, but it won’t singlehandedly stop the botting.
The use of capchas will work, they are not unsolvable of course but u must solve them in a given time and in battle you will not know when and how they appear. And you can’t use any farms to solve them because they will appear inside the game not on a public server. All resources you want to use for this must have access to the running game session, that is easy to counter.
For this reasons the chaptchas could be very easy e.g. 4 RNG digits
Yet it worked for EVE Online and PUBG…
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Was that even suggested, or is it what you fear, that your stats would be that bad that you’ll end up in thier matches or something?
Not the fact that they’ll merely be off and hidden to grind amongst thier own?
Quick add from myself after reading the news. I don’t think captcha will solve the problem, there are easily available projects on github that achieve near 100% correctness in solving them (while humans have something between 80-95%), if anything captchas will just annoy people
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if captcha doesnt help, then whats the next option? region lock? or what?
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