F9F-2 Panther vs F2H Banshee , Whats really the difference?

Both these planes have similar top speed, similar TWR, similar turn rates (according to statshark). So Why is one 7.3 and the other is 8.0?

The Banshee is slightly heavier but that doesn’t seem to make much of a difference. The Cougar does produce more thrust with WEP but that is very limited. Without WEP the Panther might even have less TWR than the Banshee

Only thing i see is that Panther can dump fuel to get 10min at start of match and that does improve it but otherwise isn’t it the same plane?

Edit: im talking about the F9F-2. not -5. That one actually has a much better engine so makes sense.

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Well, if we set the F9F-2 at 10m of fuel, its acceleration, instantaneous turn rate, and sustained turn rate should be noticeably better – even without WEP. You can check it out in statshark by tweaking their attributes.

Other than that, the only other noticeable things are that the F9F-2 doesn’t compress as much as the F2H, has 760 rounds of 20mm instead of 600, and the F9F’s flaps rip at higher speeds.

The F9F-5 also gets infinite WEP, same with the F-80C, unlike the F9F-2.

The F9F-5 is absolutely goated at 8.0 currently, and so I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets moved up to 8.3.
Though, I wouldn’t be opposed to the F9F-2 moving down to 7.7, where the F-80C used to be.

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I checked in test flight and both the F-80C and F9F-5 don’t have infinite WEP. There was a bug sometime ago where some U.S planes got infinite WEP including the cougars and the F80C.

Strange. When was that fixed? And what are their WEP limits now? Why was the F-80C moved up to 8.0 if it wasn’t buffed in the end?

Both run out of WEP after a minute or so. It was quietly fixed without any mention at all.

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I just checked and you’re right.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/BiHuWsnrraym
Strange that they never acknowledged the change, and yet earlier they suggested that it wasn’t a bug:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/EUgkTdMvSl5G
If that’s the case then I would say the F9F-5 is fine at 8.0 and the F-80C should probably go back to 7.7, perhaps along with the F9F-2.

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F9F-2is extremely strong even at current br after fuel dump was added. I picked it up at the start of this year and got like 3 or 4 K/D with it without even trying

Is it better than or as good as the F9F-5 though? It had also received the fuel dumping mechanic.

Competent players say that F-5 is better because it gets infinite WEP and stronger engine (despite increase in weight). I skipped it because I wanted to reach higher tiers (don’t care much about US Korean War stuff)

From what I’m seeing, after it had its infinite WEP removed, I think the F9F-2 and F9F-5 are on similar footing:


I really liked F-2 better pull because M3 canons are extremely easy to aim so you can just finish the dogfight before it even started by getting an angle early

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But is it really that better than F2H to warrant it being .7 higher? In a full uptier it has to face CA27 and similar. F2H is basically the same like 80%-90% the same but way better in matchmaker. You face spitfires alot even. It has less ammo and turns slightly worse at speed but thats it really.

Edit: In case you didn’t know you can remove the wingtip fuel tanks on the F2H. You should try comparing these two and i want to see what you think. For me the F9F-2 turns much better at higher speeds and this makes getting shots easier.

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they just did that because
its not the first time they balance stuff on how it was for only a short period of time to never touch it again afterwards

Pretty tragic to be honest.

We could get people to do trash in it and it would go down soon enough. They only care about their statistics

Yeah though who knows how long that will take. I know some vehicles that have been doing abysmally for quite a while and they don’t seem to care about most of them.

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F9F-2 is better in almost every metric, but uncompetitive. The F2H is better relative to its BR

This was not a bug

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Well they removed it anyways.

The F2H-2 is undertiered, the F9Fs are fine.

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